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Through the Door of Life

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“The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.” ~ 1 Corinthians 15:26

The time is upon us when our collective consciousness transforms, so that we as a creation no longer pass through the door of death but the door of life, ending the illusion and awakening into the real. We awaken to the truth that death is only an illusion allowing the reality of eternal life to fade in all around us.

The foundational lie upholding this illusion is that Death, not God, rules all. Death has the final word in every life by proclaiming: “Thou shalt die!” Who can escape? Its will is unassailable, exalting itself above God’s will that none should die. (John 3:16) But death goes further and stands in the holy place presenting itself as our savior.

Most of us equate death with a release from suffering. We believe death frees us from the travails of illness and pain, ushering us into a place of peace and comfort. It promises to take away our unbearable burdens, worries, guilt and fears. Death is so deceptive and its call as savior so strong that some take their own life that death may save them now.

Let’s be clear, death is not a savior. The way out of suffering, fear and all other illusions isn’t through one’s belief in death’s offerings of peace and comfort. To desire death in any way, shape or form is to choose to put our will and faith in an illusion; for desiring death as a means to escape from any type of suffering sustains the illusion that both death and suffering are real. Release from this illusionary dream isn’t by being separate from our bodies (which include the reality that surrounds them). Our bodies simply reflect our beliefs. They can reflect the illusion of finiteness and death or the Truth of immortality and life. It’s our state of consciousness that shapes energy into its reflective substance and form. What we hold as truth in our minds manifests in our reality. What we believe determines whether we sleep in an illusionary dream of death or awaken to eternal life.

We subconsciously accept that we enter eternal life through death. It’s the ultimate deception because in eternal life the concept of anything dying… ever… isn’t true. Ever. We awaken from this illusion of death and suffering as our faith realigns to this Truth: death is not real. One milestone of this passage of faith is that we no longer desire or put faith in the promised comforts of death in any of its many forms, but instead give our faith to Truth. As we choose to believe death is not real and that God is our only comfort and savior, we awaken and perceive the eternally open door into the Kingdom. This door to life, which is our eternal and ever-present oneness with the divine love of God, remains hidden beneath the dream of death.

As our faith aligns to the Truth of eternal life, we encounter the temptation of death anytime we believe we are not, right now, in God’s perfect care. We are faced with a choice: we can give our faith to Truth or let it remain in the illusion. As the Spirit aligns us to Truth and we put our faith in that Truth, we trust in God’s perfect care and that his divine love never fails. We let go of the idea that death or anything else rescues us from suffering. We realize belief in death or any of its forms only keeps us bound in an illusionary reality.

This awareness reveals that the reality of eternal life, peace, joy, and immortal harmony is ever-present. As we begin to perceive beyond the illusion of death, an awareness of our oneness with God reveals the Kingdom of God is at hand, dissolving the illusion. As we perceive the Kingdom within, we perceive it without. It’s always been, but the illusion of death has hidden it.

Therefore, our escape from the illusion and into life is found in awareness of our oneness with God, not death. The Spirit of God is the eternal living energy of divine love, which extends to all and gives His life to all. Being a part of God’s eternal life we could never die. If we believe in death, we choose the illusion. If we believe in God’s eternal life, we choose Truth. We can’t choose both.

Eternal and unfailing divine love is the Spirit of the Father; the Savior that Jesus Christ extended into creation. In the illusion, death stands as a savior. As we become aware of our oneness with the Spirit of the Father and let go of death’s illusion by no longer putting our faith in it, we begin reflecting eternal life and shine in the likeness of the Father. As the Spirit expels illusionary thoughts of death, our mind becomes a sanctuary (the holy place) for the holy thoughts of God. Our will is joined to God’s and in this oneness our desires of eternal life are manifested. This transformation is a rebirth, from the dream-like “reality” of the finite, into the true reality of the infinite.

  “And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” ~ John 11:26

 

~TreeSoul

Author: Rachel

My passion is cultivating a deep relationship with God and helping others to do the same. I LOVE sharing with others insights that God has taught me and hearing what God has taught them... thus my blog, Stirring the Deep. My focus is on a relationship, not a religion. Life is in the relationship. I believe in a balance and unity of body, mind and spirit. I feel it's important to nurture all three for they all affect each other. I try to live in the present, where the Holy Spirit is. And I try to do all with the motive of love. I've come to believe life is a journey and not a destination. It isn't about perfection, is it about growth.

121 thoughts on “Through the Door of Life

  1. Well said. Death is the carnal mind. Life is the mind of Christ. As we take on the mind of Christ, the carnal mind of man dies within. We can be fully redeemed on this side of the natural grave if we so “Let this mind be in us which was also in Christ Jesus.

    • Yes, ..there is much more upon the horizon .. As we awaken to the One Mind of the Spirit of God (of which we’ve always been a part – though believed ourselves separate for a season) through the workings of the Spirit, in faith as our beliefs and thoughts align to the Spirit’s revelations to us, our being begins to transform/regenerate into the eternal. There will come a time, which I believe is upon us that the Spirit through faith in the Truth and eternal leads us to no longer accept, believe, put our faith in, or will the physical death. As long as we believe it and accept it as a part of our reality it remains, thus the illusion it is built upon remains. This is the creative power of belief. It is our faith expanding into the eternal, thus the real, that changes our reality and brings about a regeneration. Our outward reflection of our bodies and reality reflect our spirit substance. As we awaken into oneness our old garments (outer body and reality that reflected the spilt (carnal) mind) are regenerated so that it reflects immortality and our true oneness with the Father.

      This is a hard and strange thing to believe, for we have believed that a physical death is Truth and unchangeable. But it is part of the illusionary dream, and as we progress in faith the Spirit reveals this to us in such a way that we can receive it. Having this faith leads to its manifestation. As we awaken on this side of the grave – the physical death is no more for we reflect eternity. When this time comes through some obtaining this faith, we begin to awaken together in a centrifugal manner according to our faith and belief – as others see the “revealing of the sons of God” and know that is their likeness as well – all will awaken.

      • Why and What Is Death?

        When Satan boasted to the Prince of Hell that he had overcome the Son of God and had him hanging on a cross, the Prince of Hell drew back in horror exclaiming: “O thou Prince of destruction, author of Beelzebub’s defeat and banishment, the scorn of God’s Angels and loathed by all the righteous persons, what inclined thee to act thus?

        “Thou wouldst crucify the KING OF GLORY, and by his destruction, has made up promises of very large advantage, but as a fool wert ignorant of what thou wast about.” (From the Lost Books of the Bible; Nicodemus XVIII).

        Now to quote from verses one and two and verses nine and ten and verses twelve and thirteen, I am instructed to share the following:

        “O Prince Satan, thou great keeper of the infernal regions, all thy advantages which thou didst acquire by the forbidden tree, and the loss of Paradise, thou has now lost by the wood of the cross;

        “And thy happiness all then expired, when thou didst crucify Jesus Christ the King of glory.

        “O Satan, Prince of all evil, AUTHOR OF DEATH, and source of all pride, thou shouldst first have inquired into the evil crimes of Jesus of Nazareth, and THEN THOU WOULDST HAVE FOUND THAT HE WAS GUILTY OF NO CRIME WORTHY OF DEATH.

        “Why didst thou venture, without either reason or justice, to crucify him, and hast brought down to our regions a person innocent and righteous, and therefore hast lost all the sinners, impious and unrighteous in the whole world?

        Christ’s trip into Hell is verified in the teachings of Saint Peter. That the gates of Hell were opened is true. And the prisoners were set free, but they were not exalted. Each soul was released from the bonds of Hell, but each was only placed on the level where he could begin to transform his life and make amends for his failures in the past as his own development began.

        There is also the record of the ancients which acclaims: “On him who OVERCOMES sin DEATH HAS NO CLAIM.”

        Satan was the author of death! Not God!

        God permitted death to be established as a way of release for those who would continue to sin throughout their mortal lives, with no desire to overcome their weaknesses.

        “THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH!” Then is given this information, in the day when man was driven from Paradise. Genesis three, verse twenty-four: “So God drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the Garden of Eden, Cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life — (Lest Adam, or man, put forth his hand and LIVE FOREVER in his sins). This is the fullness of that ancient record.

        That straight and Narrow Way back into Eden, the realm of Life was guarded and is still guarded so that man cannot partake of the Fruit of the Tree of Life — AND LIVE FOREVER IN HIS SINS.

        And as sin is the cause of death, so is it the cause of every condition leading to death, all the deterioration, the pain and anguish, the misery and old age and the intense suffering that accompanies death.

        Therefore if man was permitted to put forth his hand and partake of the precious Fruit of the Tree of Life, without first OVERCOMING sin he would go on living forever in his sin. And in such an existence his miseries and distresses would not only continue to increase, but would intensify until the lot of man would be utterly impossible to endure. And so it was that God permitted death to remain on the earth until man himself OVERCAME THE CAUSE OF IT — which cause is Sin. Death itself is a back-door release from the distressed, agonized tortures of the physical ills and sufferings brought on by sin. So it is through the very evils of one’s own transgressions man is required to relinquish the body or temple, which God bestowed upon him in order to endure the low grade of mortality which he brought upon himself.

        And it is true, “That through one man death came into the world,” each man since that day has brought on his own death. For each man is punished for his own sins and not for Adam’s transgression. We have been born into this lowest realm of mortality and are forced to remain here because of our own failure to rise up and OVERCOME THE EVILS OF OUR LIVES.

        But death, seen from this angle, as a means of release from suffering, old age and helplessness is a mercy. And so God has permitted it to remain. Yet death is not necessary. It may be a privilege to the wicked and ungodly and sinners, but there is no glory in it. Man was not ordained to die. Man has only to OVERCOME SIN and Death will have to back down and all the inherent ills thereof.

        This is verified in Hebrews 11:13-15. This scripture is speaking of the ancient Patriarchs who never lived under the laws (for the law was given because of sin, according to Galatians). However, before the sins of the people, under Moses, the ancient Patriarchs lived not under the law, but under THE PROMISES THROUGH FAITH.”

        In this chapter of Hebrews is mentioned some of the Patriarchs, the first one named is “Enoch, who was translated that he should not see death; and was not found because God translated him; for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.” So it was through his righteousness that Enoch overcame death.

      • The door to this glorious Path of joy and gladness and increasing enlightenment and understanding is contained fully in that divine, First, Great Commandment of all power — LOVE!

        “LIVE the laws and you will KNOW!” So said Christ. And no one can possibly KNOW anything unless he himself experiences it. To hear about things and conditions, or of God may become part of one’s beliefs, but never becomes a part of his own actual KNOWLEDGE until he experiences it for himself.

        Yes, “LIVE that First and Great Commandment and you will KNOW!” And “you will need none to teach you for God Himself will be your teacher!” And to LIVE it does not mean to merely nod one’s head over it in an inactive affirmation or casual acceptance of the idea. To fulfill it requires that every cell and fibre and atom of one’s being be imbued with it. Only then does it become a part of one’s own experience, hence his KNOWLEDGE.

        This “LIVING” requires that one embeds those instructions into the living tissues of his heart, his soul and his mind until they not only become a very part of his being, THEY BECOME HIM! And HE BECOMES THAT LOVE! “For he who would interpret the wonders of the Lord would be dissolved and become that which is interpreted.”

        LIVE that First and Great Commandment and the Second One will follow naturally, without effort or striving. The developing and releasing of LOVE from the heart, soul and mind overcomes all negation, dislikes, fears, ugliness, weaknesses and human, mortal grubbiness, for these traits will be dissolved. And such a one will automatically become that LOVE! “Live the laws!” admonished Christ; “And you will KNOW!” And to KNOW requires the experience of receiving all the knowledge and the PROMISES AND POWERS pertaining to that information.

        Man has never accepted the dynamic challenge to LIVE CHRIST’S teaching. Man has only weakly affirmed his inactive endorsement of those teachings as a fullness of acceptance. And many think they are proving their belief by going forth and hammering others with their interpretations as they send forth their haranguements in discordant, sanctimonious self-righteousness. Yet Christ’s actual teachings have never been acknowledged as a Way of Life and of fulfillment or an everlasting privilege of stupendous accomplishment, crowned with every reward contained in every Promise ever given since time began.

        That First and Great Commandment, when LIVED contains the breathtaking fulfillment of every PROMISE God ever gave, plus all perfection and all power. Within it is held forever the fulfilling of the LOVE which brings into one’s life a complete knowledge of the things which Eyes have never seen, nor ears heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man — those unspeakable glories, which God has PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM — and prove it by their living of that law pertaining to it.

        This fulfilling is not something which can be boasted about, shouted about in worldly sermons or declarations, nor is it fulfilled by a silent nod of approval. This commandment must be LIVED! This requires an exerted effort of constant desire and application until the very cells of the body and brain and heart sing together in a glory of joyous response at the slightest suggestion or thought of God, or of His blessings. It is as that LOVE is developed that it will finally take over in every cell and fibre and tissue that one “Transforms his carnal flesh to flesh divine without descending through the gates of death!” Even as Enoch of old accomplished.

        It is as one, like Enoch, “transforms the carnal flesh to flesh divine, without descending through the gates of death,” that he arrays himself in the white raiment of eternal glory and is truly “Born of the Spirit!” And the shame of his mortal nakedness, whatever its cause, will be OVERCOME and one will be clothed in Light and will “COMPREHEND ALL THINGS.” he will be robed in Light and Love and eternal, everlasting power. And this is the glory of it!

  2. This on the contrair, it is easy to believe, however it depends on where God allows us to be on this journey within. Our hearts and eyes have to be opened. As Christ searches our heart within, with His light He is looking to see where we’ve grown and where we lack. He then creates the circumstances which will further evolve us into a better image of Himself. We are His workmanship and we just need to be patient and let Him decide what is best for us to go through; which trials, tribulations and test. Then we ask Him to carry us through them keeping our faith, knowing these things are the things that will bring us to Himself. When we understand just like in the case of Job, it is God who orders the test for our revealing within, this puts a whole new understanding on the why of our difficulties.

    As more and more of the truth that is revealed to us and the meaning of the seemingly horrific symbols in Revelations are brought to light…there is no fear…for the book is a revealing of the Christ within us. Is this an end of the world thing? It can be if we which world it is the end of. It is the end of the world of the carnal mind and just as the first sentence in Revelation reveals, this book is a revealing of Christ…the entire book is about the love and graciousness of the love God and Christ has for us. Our end was planned before we were ever born and had partaken of “any” good or evil. The process is not to divide into good and bad, heaven or hell, it is to exercise us to the full extent of obeying His way and His will. We are being schooled through the process of being born subject to condemnation in vanity. Then we are released from it when school is over, some a 100, some 60, and some 30….yet all receives the “gift of salvation”.

    How could God plan anything for an evil outcome for any? We see this only if we’re still stuck in the natural Word, but when the symbols are made known we see only Christ and we as He is…All of us.

  3. I often wondered why God would allow us to think ill of Him for all the apparent evil things He subjected to mankind. Whether it was the enemy of Israel or Israel itself, many suffered great and horrific tribulations and death. It is hard to love anyone who would kill their own children, which the type of Israel was. We can’t imagine ourselves doing likewise. Yet there is a natural and a spiritual meaning behind all things and when we start to see the truth, we see the hidden meanings and the love behind all things. Everything is a teaching experience and without being exposed to evil we cannot learn how to conduct ourselves in our life without end when we are released from the confines of this carnal mind.

    It has to be a lesson that sticks with us, sometimes so brutal many cry out, “how long”. What we get is what we need in the way of what is absolutely necessary for ourselves as individuals to be developed to our highest awareness of His likeness within. When we see the meaning of the other side of the symbol it means something quiet different from what we thought. All of the symbolic figures of evil in Revelation when revealed as to their true meaning is actually what we all pray for. Do we not desire for all the carnality that can be shaken from us to be shaken and fall away? When our earth (body) is exposed to trials, test and tribulations, there is a great shaking going on. Our earth quakes as sin is removed and we gain more light. Without this removal we will remain in our carnal state so is it a good thing or a bad thing that is happening to us? And the “Revelations” of each symbol is revealing all the Christ that is within us.

    The “seven” churches in which the book is addressed to is symbolized by the “Golden candlesticks” which had the seven (complete) spirits of God making up His complete character. The overcomers (sons of God) are not only the called out

  4. they are the stars.

  5. These symbols are revealed not to those who seek knowledge or to those who desire to know the meaning of the great mysteries in and of themselves because their is no purpose in just desiring to know things. When a person sees and seeks the likeness and love of Christ, this is above the knowing of a thing. The true revealing of the scriptures come as a result of having our priorities in order. Knowledge puffs up, but love humbles one. Love is not above another, however a desire for knowledge without a purpose makes one special in their own estimation and leads one to think knowing things is the end of a thing…a purely outward thing. We must go inward to see and to desire nothing but Christ likeness. There is no boast in Christ but as the scriptures say “knowledge puffs up.” So when we share these knowledgeable things let us be reminded we take no “pride” in sharing them…unless we can see that scriptures can confirm what is already within us, as we mature within…having our priorities in order.

  6. You are helping people believe a die and you and others will be dammed. You really went off the deep in when you left church. You are just doing what a lot of so called churches are doing. What a shame. You are leading people to hell even your self.

    • God’s love has no hate in it, but lovingkindness, gentleness, honor, understanding, and it’s the essence of life – not death. We experience great freedom and release into Truth as we come to perceive him correctly according to his Holy Spirit’s revelation within us. As we begin to perceive his true nature and through our union with him in truth and humility desire to give his holy love without reservation, we experience its increase within ourselves. When we taint his love with misunderstandings of attributes of separation, suffering, vengeance, and the like, we keep ourselves blinded from truth and his love’s ever-presence in our lives and the lives of others. We all have much to learn, and his love covers all as we learn and grow in the ways of truth. As we focus on loving God in truth, we will love others unreservedly with his love, which is according to truth. How do we know we are moving into Truth? God is love and God is Truth. As we move into Truth, we increase and grow in our desire to extend the love of God by desiring to love all in all situations – as this is the nature of the divine love of God. God’s divine love is pure, holy, perfect, unchanging, and the healer and deliverer of all from all.

      Abundant grace and peace to you.

  7. when someone speaks like that, they are the DOUBTs that we manifest within ourselves(even in good words). It is our GIVING(love) that is the STRENGTHs(and weaknesses) in others. EVERY part of our being is being presented in EVERYONE(we cant escape ourselves). as we speak kind words, and others refuse. they are also aligned within our oneness. we DECIEVE ourselves as there is MUCH MORE TO LEARN(this is a good thing to recognize). ALL WORKING PARTS come together. even within the negative words mentioned, those people also have PURPOSE within us. they represent forms of doubts within our own hearts even as we GROW out of it. they may suck us back into MAN(death), or GOD’s(oneness)(if we truely listen). Dont think of god as something that we wait on, but something that the universe is waiting on us. one problem i see in all of us, is that we say we wait for god as though god is seperated, even though we know god is within us(being). We dont wait for god, god waits for us(all parts come together). Dont think of god as one apart from self, but the GLUE that binds us all to each-other(space = purpose). NO SEPERATION(we know this). ONE POSITIVE part that i never mentioned are the RESULTS… KNOWLEDGE is a very positive thing. not the concepts of knowledge,
    but the “KNOWLEDGE OF”(the eternal). The results can be seen when WE realize that EACH PERSON plays out everything in our own hearts(one heart shared with all)…… as we choose one idea over another, we shut down people, and when we shut down ourselves, those rejections(in which we create in ourselves) play out in others.
    WE HAVE TO BE TRUE TO OURSELVES(I AM WITHIN I AM) .

    I have many gifts. i can think a thought, and watch the world(and universe) play out that thought(every day). i have doubts that when i mention what i can do, that people will think it is crazy. so even as i know god within, the universe(through others), show me my own doubts as i fear to share my GREATER GIFTS. i fear that as people worship christ or allah, or mohamad, morman, juashua, ect.(my spelling is bad), that the world would reject what i say. that is what Glenda is playing out. i want to thank Glenda for showing me my doubts, but i still fear what judgements sonny and rachel, ad mishai and others still think, even though i trust/hope/ faith in god(through all)….
    does this make sense……

    • This is such an important dynamic to understand – and I’m grateful you expressed your thoughts on it – and like you I am growing in ever more awareness of it. Our reality is a reflective one. Others reflect aspects of ourselves and they show us areas we are aware and not aware of. And as we move into the Light, as they reflect elements of the illusion we are moving out of – they afford us opportunities to push deeper into the Light. When we see the illusion reflected in them, it gives us an opportunity to push through that lie/illusion in faith – as we respond in love. As we continue to respond in love and truth, we push through our own illusions within. Any other response keeps us bound to that illusion because we make the illusion real.

  8. Church is not a place as the outward world would have you to believe. The real church is that wheel that is within a wheel which so many clamour to know about. When one comes out of that which is seen into that which is “unseen” they become the wheel that is within a wheel or the hub so to speak. It is the center of the church world as a whole, that which is without also. This is because it is the inner church (wheel) that will bring the outer church (wheel) to God. These are the “Sons” which will bring all things to completion. They become the unseen church that came out of the “seen”. So we pray for all regardless of where we see others for everyone cannot aspire and attain to the same calling, for it is by God’s sovereign will where we are placed in our order.

    So if we have left the outward church for the inward church, we see a great mystery, for as we become members of the inward we see even those in the outer wheel as loved as the inner wheel, just poor and blind and….to the true purposes of God. So when we have ridicule for another we in effect ridicule ourself. So let us not belittle those who cannot see and therefore belittle us, for only those who can see the love of God in all, are free to love all, the outer and inner wheel which encompasses all in the circle without end.

    It is truly a blessing to be able to look at any person and to know they are included in God’s plan as we ourselves are included, that none of us are so virtuous as to be without sin to accuse another. To love God’s creation from more and more of His perspective is a blessing. It is the love that is the greatest of all gifts…and this Love is to be as God is. The I Am…as He Is.

  9. Death is that which comes from the carnal mind, the works of the flesh, that is derived from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Life comes from the mind of Christ, the tree of life which are the attributes listed in the beatitudes. Life and death are listed for all to see so plainly yet the ego of the carnal mind of man refuses to see what is so simple.

    Death is our jealousies, our unforgiving attitudes, lack of respect in the way we speak out, ,etc., etc., whereas life is found in “practicing” the love of Christ within our being. Death is pomp, arrogance, demands recognition, demands to be heard “above” all others.

    Death is the evil nature within, just as life is the light of Christ, also within. We gravitate toward the one or the other. Choose you this day whom you will serve. A Life of love wants to serve, and does not want to be recognized above others. The devil is in the details.

  10. hello all, who is everyone doing

    think of DEATH as being asleep(living as man). since life is in all things, we tend to think we are serving life, but most of us are asleep. there is a STRENGTH in which the world possesses that aligns our BEING with something much greater than ourselves(we must see this in others and ourself).
    to be DEAD means that we go through life with the senses of man(alone in seperation), and to be in LIFE is to live in spirit(see christ in all things), as we are all part of something much greater that ourselves. we must SEE CHRIST in others, as the ONE LORD is shared in all(spirit). if you reject satan, or fight against satan, then you yourself give life to satan(give life to OPPOSING FORCEs). but to even love satan is to give LIFE TO ALL(see christ in all).

    the UNIVERSE(spirit in all thing) listens and gives our own strenghts to WHOM WE SERVE…. Love is BEING(see yourself in all)

    its like the cells of our own individual body works in syncronicity where our own consiousness is ancored into this world. and each PERSON is like a cell of a much bigger body. you cant go through life rejecting your heart and seeing the world as evil and serve christ. it doesnt work that way. christ(along all other names) are in all of us. require all working parts together…

  11. err, i meant HOW is everyone doing 🙂

  12. We are here to learn from among other things, making our mistakes. It is part of what builds character within us as God schools us throughout our life. We make mistakes because of the death that resides within us. Death is the attributes of fallen man, the carnal mind. God so carefully explained and put the fall of mankind into motion in the book of Genesis. God had a plan….to school His children in His different callings according to what order He saw and placed them in. Some 30, some 60, and some a 100. God has a plan for each of us and we must experience and be taught the ways of God and how “He”rules His universe. Death is necessary for it is a created opposite in many circumstances to God’s way and will. All planned through Christ right down to the dot above the eye. There is no wavering, there is no mistake. Neither you nor I are a mistake, neither is His plan as it was carefully penned and written as a great stage play.

    Death is part of that play and when we have been exercised in this death experience, we will learn the greatness of the love of God. There is no mistake to be found in anything that we experience from the hand of God. Even our so called mundane days are if nothing else a lesson in developing our patience toward our heavenly calling. Nothing is lost.

    Death magnifies life, for when we hate and feel the pain of it, we contrast this mind of death to the love we learn to possess above all else. When we let the mind of Christ take up its abode within us, death departs us little by little, until we are consumed finally in all the love God is.

    Death is nothing to be feared for death also has its loving purpose. When we come to see God as a God of love and all that He creates and does is from this same love, it is impossible to have any negative feelings toward Him. This is because we “know” Him and knowing in the true sense of the word is showing in action we “know.”

    Death is but a fleeting circumstance to bring about an awareness of God and how He will have the universe to be governed under His will and guidance through the endless ness of life.

    “All” things work together for God to complete us and His vast kingdom as He desires. We learn about His will, His life and His love through the things we must suffer through….just as the firstborn. So for those who have eyes to see in a positive
    light and ears to understand in the spirit, let us see that God is of a sound mind with a purpose. This earthly experience is a school to bring us up through the different grades of accomplishment, some 30,60, and 100. The gift of salvation is given to all of these callings, however where we measure up to is where we will be placed.

    When we look out upon this wonderful plan of God let us cease to divide it into good and evil categories as did Eve. Let us agree with God when He said in Genesis, it is good…meaning His plan for the ages was for the benefit of all of mankind…and this plan will teach us all we need to know…then we are sealed into His perfection.

    It is all good.

  13. Absolutely,

    We are so much a part of Him that we are of His very same spirit. And if this is so, which it is, we are without beginning or end also. It is that when we were given life as a separate entity the eternal spirit of our Father was given to us…a part of the spirit without beginning or end. This is how we become of the same spirit, of the “I Am.” Some food for thought. It is a wonderous revealing.

    Love reveals truth so do not entertain any semblance of hate even in its mildest form. Love is all there is.

  14. If death is an illusion, why would it need to be destroyed? Illusions only need to be dispelled. If I were to destroy you, in the same way, then you would be admitting that ‘you’ are an illusion. The powerful thing about God is that He reaches out to us “regardless of our illusions”, whether they be real, or unreal, for the very reason that he does not want us to experience death. If death is a lie, then that, is saying the reverse, namely, that it {{ does ‘not need to be dispelled’}}, but rather just as the Bible says,~ “it needs to be destroyed”.
    Death here is “outside” the mental realm, and is not philosophical. For instance, if you know God, through Jesus, as you have, suggested (not trying to put words in your mouth) (but as I understood your comments) if you know God through Jesus, then the Bible says, “You HAVE PASSED FROM DEATH INTO LIFE”. Have passed being ‘past tense’.
    Jesus said ~ Whoever believes in me will never taste death.

    So, one must understand that your opening comment, or rather quote that ” the Last enemy that shall be destroyed is death “, from the Bible, is not referring to the “first death”, but rather “the second death”.
    You will find these statements in the Bible, concerning the difference in the two.
    The Second Death, is Hell.

    With all grace to each of you. Thanks for your hearing.
    God is greater than Philosophy and our wanderings among different analogies, but (He) personally is the Truth. Love Ya.
    The only salvation from philosophy and analogy, which is the shadow of illusion is knowing God as a personal being. If you seek love, you will find Jesus, who is the image of God. I am not speaking philosophically, but I am speaking of the person of Jesus. It is seeking Him that is the solution.

  15. hi all

    Dont think of death as dieing, think of death as BEING ASLEEP. to destroy death is to not live within the SENSES OF THE FLESH(but in spirit). to remove Death is to LIVE IN SPIRIT(see spirit in all of us)… think of christ as BEING a SPIRIT(shared in all things). to think of christ as a person is to live in death as we cannot see christ in EVERYONE. we MUST SEE CHRIST(and all other names) in all of us, is to LIVE THROUGH CHRIST(and all other names). and to destroy death(living without death).

    philosophy is a LANGUAGE of the flesh. but to live outside of philosophy and BE the LANGUAGE of the spirit is the only way to BEING(in christ and all other LAWs) LOVE. dont take the words literally, but know the words are LIMITING within whats truely being said(through all of us). if we reject others, we live in death. but to see self in others is to CONNECT IN SPIRIT…

    EACH WORKING PART comes together…

    first death is LIVING AS MAN(see through our eyes, hear through our ears, smell through our nose, touch with our fingers).
    second death is actually dying as we pass on spirit through time to other cells …..

    each cell springs out of nothing and HOLDS our consiousness, then fades back into the eternal, each of us is like a cell of our spiritual body(heaven on earth).

    THE ONE BODY is shared in all(holy spirit)(heaven on earth)(greater than own self and others as shared body)…
    if you are seeking, then you live in death, but if you recognize that christ is all around us(waiting to be accessed), then you live in spirit… you cannot live in spirit alone. you must see spirit in all things and give value to ALL….

    even the concept of illusions is a langauge of death(man senses). we only use these words because that is what our spiritual langauge created within us to WALK THROUGH to get to the langauge of spirit(eternal)….

    eventually all of us will come into ONE LANGUAGE(eternal), but if we defend what we know and hide behind BELIEF(against eachother), then we fall prey to death(blind to the greather LANGUAGE WITHIN US ALL).

    • Again, if you have the knowledge of God, you will know that before the foundation of the World, that we were created through Jesus Christ. In Heaven as part of the Trinity, were The Father, The Word, and the Holy Spirit. At that Time, Jesus, was not known by that name, but by the name “The Word”.
      In the Beginning was “The Word”, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Nothing that was made was made without Him. (The Book of Genesis).
      When He became Incarnate, through the birth of a Woman (Mary), He took on the Name Jesus.

      Death came to mankind through sin. but Salvation from Death came through Jesus Christ.
      And again, Philosophy, is man’s attempt to understand these things, without the Revelation or revealing that God gave freely through His Son.
      The Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven.

      The things of the spirit can only be revealed through Faith, and The Word.
      Philosophy is all about man communicating “his ideas” of what this is all about.
      But God has given this to us, in the Word of God, and it is only seen by faith.
      The One Language is already given to us in the Word of God.
      Death came through Sin.
      To be free from Spiritual death, you must go through the Door.
      Jesus said, ” I Am, The Door “. ” He that cometh into the sheepfold some other way, is a thief and a robber.”
      Jesus, said, “My Sheep know my voice”. The voice of Love, that was from the beginning.

  16. hello again 🙂
    First , word refers to global/physical MANIFESTATION…. has nothing to do with INK IN A BOOK…. second , death did not come through sin as religion interpers. sin is from ALL OF US. we are all manifest of spirit to flesh. GOD refers to ALL OF US(in spirit). when we turn against one another, we lose our SPIRITUAL SELF. we become SEPERATE… jesus in the original terms REQUIRES ALL ITS MOVING PARTS. if one of us commits a sin(in your terms), then we all have commited the sin. we consist of that sin, but we are not bound to it, yet we keep ourselves conditioned. faith is for eachother. if i dont have faith in the christ in you, then i cannot have faith in christ in me(spiritual). to be free from spiritual death, you must recognize OUR ETERNAL FATHER as source of all(BEING). the voice of LOVE is that BEING, but not in an individual, but IN ALL PEOPLE> we are ETERNAL F IRST, MAN LAST. we forgotten our spiritual senses, and live in the LANGUAGE OF MAN. it takes all MOVING PARTs to live in christ(peace in all mankind). only then can we see christ(in all things). you have to take the original LANGUAGE rather than what we turned the BIBLE’s into(mush). each bible requires all other bibles. and they tell a bigger story. jesus and mary are not people, they are LAWs. they are spirits(in the NAME OF:i give to THEE). each SPIRIT is a SOUL that is in ALL OF US… ya gotta look at the original context of 2000 years ago rather than todays concepts. its simple, but we tend to keep ourselves CONDITIONED…..
    LOVE(in the beginning), refers to MANIFESTATION. we have to GIVE to past and future selves in order to MANIFEST IN THE NOW…

    each moment in TIME, interacts with ALL MOMENTS IN TIME(i give to thee: in the name of).. logic of space is a manifest of all MOMENTS working together(source of PATH)….. when we know our path, we know that we are ANNNOINTED..

    the death will destroy itself, and MAN will turn ETERNAL….. the rest are just trickerys of our own senses….
    to live as man is to ROB of ETERNAL(20 percent of brain rather than 100)

    • The truths that I am sharing, do not require anything more than knowing a Person. The Person of God, that is the creator, has given “himself” to us. This is a living person that knows us by heart.
      God is a God of miracles. Including “Ink to Paper”.
      If you are afraid of Trickeries, you are probably, definitely subject to them, including “your own”.
      You are, just as susceptible to your own, trickeries, as you are to the trickeries, that you fear on Paper.
      Point being. Reality is what it is. If you can’t read it. You can’t find it. or Trust it.
      God is a God of miracles.
      He put himself in Paper. Wrote it out for you.

  17. also all BRAINS = 1 mind(one body: each of us are eternal brothers)

  18. the WORLD is the paper, and each of us is that man…but man is the WHOLE RACE(mirror of eternal)…

    • That is a purely philosophical, statement. It is a viewpoint, a way of looking at your environment.
      You could just as easily make a philosophical. statement, that says “none of us are connected”.
      The “connection” is an abstract statement, looking for meaning “between things”.
      Ok, There IS a meaning there. But the meaning is that God loves us and created us for His Joy.
      He didn’t create us, to “understand”, every implication of life.
      That is Man, trying to Save Himself, from Himself. Looking for a “Way Out”
      God gave us the way out, ~ Through Himself That work was done by Jesus on the Christ.
      But Faith is required to believe it. Because you cannot prove it.

  19. i am love, your are love

    you use our language to DEGRADE others in thinking. in doing so, you LIMIT yourself to an individual. philosophical is just a word thrown around as a means of control(as you are using it). i dont go by the language of man. its like MINDFIELDS. between the cracks of reality, we are saying the same thing, but from different viewpoints of the same thing. eventually, we must align. to throw everyone’s ideas away in order to satisfy your own goes against everything even of what you teach yourself…..
    we are all connected(eternal). if we cannot understand that, then you will always live in death. to say god loves us is to not know our own STRENGTHS in god. we are the LOVE of god(spirit to flesh). the whole WORLD is the INK IN A BOOK. god is all around us, and we are all part. to seperate yourself from the world(reflection of god in us) is to LIVE IN SIN. the way out of HIMSELF is through christ(we agree in words, but not in philosophical terms(using your langauge)). to say the way out is in christ in my terms is to LOVE ONE ANOTHER as we are that LOVE(ONE BODY: one GOD). christ(and all other names) in all….

  20. Illusion: “A thing that is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.” Illusions come in many disguises, especially in the church systems of man. Death is a created thing that has no lasting purpose…so it will be done away with once death has accomplished its purpose…therefore death is used to bring forth life…except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it will not produce life after its kind. Death is that which is against or opposes the continuous of life…hate vs love, unforgiveness vs forgiveness, etc… Death that is wrongly perceived or misunderstood by the senses of the carnal mind leaves one confused as to just what “death” really is… There is a natural death which many can see as the only death there is…however there is the death of death… Death in its most defined form in the scripture is referring to the death of the carnal mind, the old man so to speak. The natural event of the natural grave has little to do with the true meaning of death. The natural events and meanings of things on the surface or in the symbol are always a veil to the actual spiritual truth of things.

    All of created nature is but a symbol of something higher than the symbol itself. A rock can be boulder in your garden or it can be an entity described in scripture as a person who can be built upon spiritually, unmovable, not deterred by the winds of false knowledge and doctrine. A tree can also describe of what sort of person someone is such as the cedars, always green with life through winters and summers. Under the Old Testament law buildings made with hands were the temple, with the birth of Christ in this earth we leave the Old Testament symbol and we worship God where He resides in the true spiritual temple…within us. We must understand that all symbols which are natural things must be translated into their true meaning to have any spiritual effect on us. “EVERYTHING” must be seen by leaving the symbol behind and acquiring the spiritual truth of what is only represented in the natural world. Do we want to remain natural beings, void of the truth? Does one depict themselves as a human being having a spiritual experience or a spiritual being having a short experience here on this earth?

    It is the love of Christ which is poured into our temple that displaces death. There are two competing forces within each one of us… Christ likeness of the spiritual mind and carnality, the deathly attitude of fallen man. Love and hate. As Christ’s seed grows in us to become that matured being of Himself …our “old man” of death and carnal reasoning diminishes. Lust, pride, hate, and any ill will toward another is…in reality the truest and highest form of death. It is read and is so, that love cast out fear and fear is part of the death makeup within our carnal mind. The carnal mind is and carries all the characteristics of death. As we journey through this life, of the valley of death experience and we are filled more and more with the love of Christ…death gradually fades away, never to return, just as the illusion of death does. Death is temporary, and all things temporary is depicted in the Bible as that, that will be done away with… it’s fleeting….not real…it’s as an illusion…not permanent. Anything that is not of the permanency of life is called death in the scriptures and life is the love that will remain once we become dead to that which is not real within us…so that when that last enemy that will be destroyed, being death…is dissolved…we are left with nothing other than the purity of life, His likeness and character…thus finishing the process of what was declared by God Himself…through His Son…in Genesis of “making man in their image.”

    When Paul made the statement that he came not with great oracles of speech or having great words of wisdom but taught Christ and Him crucified. This crucifixion that Paul preached had nothing to do with the natural cross. The true “cross” consist of crucifying our old man, the carnal mind as the life of Christ comes in and displaces this imposter of life.

    Religion is a form of death itself for religion has a “form” of life but it is often filled with pomp and a display of the “ garment” of God mixed with the garments of men. Life and death. When one takes the gifts of God such as His words of His love and the ability to speak eloquently and mixes these good things with their own pomp and pride, and seeking to elevate themselves in the eyes of others…these are dead men walking. Many do these things ignorantly thinking they do God a service when in actuality they are feeding the devil within themselves as they also feed the devil in and to the congregation in which they are supposed to be serving with Christ like fruits. Instead of teaching the humbleness and the way to the kingdom by the true cross, being humble…these false and pretentious speakers of death stand with their tail feathers held high while they walk the stage in their own selfish and deceitful “pride of life” teaching the ways of man for the ways of God. Arrogance, pomp and pride of the carnal man has no place in teaching the way to God. Yet we see these arrogant fools beaming with their own self adulation, promoting self and stealing the hearts and minds of those they convince that they must come through them to get to God. These ministers of death are those who have transformed themselves into angels of life, leading the blind congregation into the abyss of thinking to be proud of self is a form of Godliness.

    Ones should spend a little time in rightly dividing the word of God before revealing and speaking of their false nature while actually being clothed in a mixed garment of truth and carnality. As a white robe of unmixed cloth represents the righteousness of Christ that we are asked to put on, in contrast a garment of linen (the righteousness of God) mixed with wool ( the unrighteousness of man) represents these false teachers and preachers. You cannot speak and teach the truth using only words of self importance while your fruits are revealing your true heart within. The very elect will not be persuaded by this show of ignorance. While these false angles of light sell their wares and making merchandise of the people, the people themselves ask for what they receive…linen mixed with wool. A covering of unrighteousness has settled in over them because instead of keeping their head uncovered as we are instructed to do, many cover their head (which is Christ, the head) with another human being full of faults and mistake. The pure in heart follows no man, therefore skipping the pomp and pride of the false anti christ and follows the
    Christ within where there is no pomp and pride to be mislead by…for in Christ..there is no flatness. We should listen to others as we share but we “follow” no man…we follow Christ.

    Again, we need no man to reach us for Christ is within and if we will turn within we will find all the teacher we need. Let us therefore put on lhe linen garment of righteousness, allowing no mixture of wool (self) to utter a word of confusion. When a person’s only desire is to please God and has a vision to follow the voice of Christ, this person’s eye is single. This person has no ego wanting to be admired or recognized for their much speaking, , seeks no adulation nor fortune in the religious world. Since people are known by their fruit and their words depict what sort of nature is within, we should easily be able to test these spirits…when one listens to another talk…so is “the pride of life” dominating ..are they creating an illusion that people must go through them to get saved, hear their words, give them their money by teaching the false doctrine of tithing? These do not wear white robes of righteousness, for the wool in their garment which the fruit of their mouth reveals are the filthy rags of “self” righteousness. Let us turn away from such ones who teach an illusion of righteousness, drawing men unto themselves.

    A white linen robe of righteousness that we are to clothe ourselves with is an attitude of Christ likeness. In the book of Revelation there is no pride of self in these garments…no mixture. The old man is dead. Christ is risen in His true temple..within…forever having left All illusions of the symbol.

  21. agree 🙂 you are truely one with spirit.

  22. We are love, being birthed in spirit from our Father. We are His offspring and kind manifest after kind. As Paul taught there is evil present in us as we follow on to know Christ, yet it is who we identify with and who we follow after which determines our faith to follow in the hope of redemption. Christ Himself, the night before His crucifixtion prayed to let this cup pass from Him if possible, but never the less He put God’s will before His own. The point is Christ had His will and desires right up until the end, just as we have our own desires but He sacrificed His own will, being “obedient” to the end. So must we imulate the Christ.

    The love which Christ described He had was the same love God gave to Him and it was the same love they both described as is given to us…thus we becoming one with them. This oneness is not devisive, for this Oneness is born of love one for the other. If one’s differences of opinions, knowledge and doctrine divides one this is not love for love has no boundaries. If one wears a label, they have boundaries and divide love into us vs. them. So coming out of her is a large step in being undivided by man made kingdoms of fpself.

    We may have faults as Paul described, however we are not to look at these traits in another to judge them right or wrong for we are to look to their end as we desire for God to look to our finished end in Him. By looking at one another as a finished product we see “one” way, one life, one love and one God. We see no fault in another to judge them unworthy. We are to be as Christ, seeing judgement as mercy merged with love to see one corrected to the ways of God through Christ Jesus. Correction is to righteousness with the purpose of further establishing love in a person. Punishment carries a thought of revenge with no purpose other than to have one to suffer for their crime. This is not God’s thought nor is it His way. If this is your thought and meaning of correction vs. punishment then your old man is fully alive and well…and he must be “corrected” hmself.

    We must think long term, seeing past the fallen attributes of our brother for they are only fleeting and temporary. Let us see one another as finished in the love of Christ for we know we shall all be found in the likeness and image of our Father when every last vestige of the carnal nature has been crucified within each and every one of us. Christ sees us as finished when the corrections have been made and be made they will for this is His promise to us. We are to look at a person and also see them finished like ourselves. Is this not what the scriptures teach past the symbol? When we look at another that has a hateful disposition, let us see the finished Christ in them…seeing a future perfect brother in Christ. Let our disposition toward this immature one be as though they are mature for we cannot change colors as does a lizard to its environment. We change not, we remain in Christ.

    Yes, we are all one in The “love” of Christ so the sooner we get there the sooner we are all one. Let our attitude be one toward those who are not one, that they may see oneness and not religious divisiveness.

    God is one, choose you this day if your one with God and see us as one or remain with a double vision seeing others as being different from yourself and God. How we see things in singleness of vision and oneness determines if we are in love.

  23. What we are speaking of in relation to God, is very simplistic. It is not, a puzzle which we solve among ourselves, as to how we see things. It is a relationship, between us and God himself. God, is able to understand and have compassion on our errors of seeing, and how we see.
    We must come to know God, ‘through his Word’.
    Until you see the foundational importance of what God has given, through the simple relationship to speech, you will not find, the very simplistic love of God, which is not tied up within verbose symbolism, or even the worry of misunderstanding your neighbor.
    When you allow God to speak, you let down the wall of worry and concern about your own soul, and give that, in trust over to Him.
    This eliminates, the great fear of trying to prove, a theology of soul, and rather allows God Himself to speak to us as a child.
    Jesus, Said, == I came not to bring Peace, but a Sword.
    How powerful that division is, when it is dividing the Truth, from the lies of Satan.
    To walk with the Lord, means you are committed to one greater than yourself for His purpose. In being committed to that, you will find that you do not need to parse every statement of yourself and others, for it is about God’s love, that we are sharing.
    One cannot put a candle under a bed, but I bring forth the candle and place it on the table so that all can see the light.
    If one walks in the daytime, he stumbles not, for he sees the light of this world.
    If you know the light, remain in the light, for the night cometh when no man can work.
    I speak not of you all for I know whom I have chosen. No man can come unto me except the father draw
    him, and I will raise him up at the last day.
    I came not to bring peace, but a sword.
    Except you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you. I came not to do my own will, but
    the will of Him who sent me.
    You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you. If you continue in my Love, you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
    If another come in his own name, him you will believe. Many shall come in my name saying “I am Christ”.
    Go not after them.

  24. 🙂
    some of us just have to experience . the words get all twisted. that we are all bad, and no one will live up the the expectatations.
    setting the world for failure. always condemning eachother, and not to listen to one another. this is the works of satan within our own death. we must see CHRIST(law) in eachother and the world). we must set ourselves free. to love one another without judgement. to see CHRIST IN ALL…. blood = FLOW. sword = spiritual strength, and christ means peace in all mankind(we see light by having FAITH in everyone). the world plays out what we create within our own heart. and to condemn our own heart and world is to live in death. but to see christ in EVERYONE is to be ONE WITH christ in all… the UNIVERSE(eternal life) listens to the ENERGY we all output(one body)…

    no matter what we say, some may not be willing to learn new things. we must love them equally. and to cherrish an IDLE in the COST of the world is the trickery of satan… it isnt satan that tricks us, it is the satan within us that we trick ourselves. but to condemn others also is how we trick ourselves. we must have faith in OUR neibors(every person around us). this is how LIFE is manifested in us all.

    • I agree with what you are seeing and saying…That there is nothing to pursue except the love of God, through Christ for this is the end of all things. For example, the only “end” of the world we are to be worried about is the end of our world within our own selves. The end of us (our world of vanities) is the beginning of Christ also in us. It is wonderful that we can see that our differences are not to be compared to our likeness’ in Christ. We should all look to the consummation of God’s plan where we see love complete. When we see this, we see God all and in all. No more death.

      We should all relax, be patient, and wait on the salvation of the Lord…for it WILL come to all.
      It is all good.

    • You can see yourself anyway that you want to see yourself. If you are asking other people to see you in some particular way, they would never be able to live up to the idea of what that would be. People need to be able to see you for what you are, and then they can forgive you for areas where you are not what you should be. God is the one that you need to be pleasing. He knows who you are, and He is your judge.
      People should be able to communicate thoughts, and ideas with you that do not match what you expect from them, because the box you have created for them is not theirs, it’s yours.
      Any condemnation you are feeling about yourself, is coming from you, or the Holy Spirit is trying to awaken you to the fact, that you need a Savior.
      All of us are sinners, and we need the Savior in the same way, but their is no requirement from the Heavenly Father that expects us to be perfect.
      Your Goal of perfectionism, for yourself, is then being extended to others, and because they cannot fulfill that in your mind, you perceive communication, and every day life, as condemnation.
      That is a pretty sad place for you to be in. God is trying to communicate His love to you, and you are focused on condemnation. The idea of creating a perfect world for yourself through your mind is a fallacy. The moment someone begins to communicate that thought to you, you see it as a type of shaming. There is no one whom you have never met who is interested in playing violin to your idea of perfection, for the human race. That is actually playing God on your part, as you create your own world, but the sad part is that is why you are condemned is because, your view of reality is ‘self centered’, whereas other people are simply trying to share, or communicate with you, a simple conversation becomes an enhance philosophical argument for you about “how things Should Be’.
      Well they are not that way, and how you can find that out is by conversing with others to bring perspective into your life so that every nuance of life does not become condemnation for you. If people needed to condemn you, they could just shoot you, and be done with it. They don’t have to show interest in your spiritual life to do that, and certainly don’t have to be honest with you. No one is requiring it of them. Come out of the illusion and be a real person. Gain a perspective that counters yours and accept the challenge that you are not perfect. Only God is.

      • I say over and over to condemn no one, and this is easy to understand in my articles. And yet you keep finding fault with “everyone”. You have a need to point out as a fault what others have to share..and if they disagree you come across as in this last response as an accuser. Pretty sad. I do not condemn myself, you nor anyone else. It is amazing I teach tolerance and when I try to correct your opinion of what I or another says…you get offended.

        I take your opinion as what and how you see things. It’s fine with me…it is only when you directly tend to insult others for their opinion that I am more direct with you. You may mean well but you have an insulting behavior. I have seen people on here pretty much tell you in no uncertain terms how you really come across to them in the most rude way. I would say take a good look at yourself, change your attitude to a more conciliatory way, before you correct others. Because you don’t understand something you say it’s not necessary to know such as the symbols. The symbols are what reveals the spirit in the written word. To ridicule another for understanding them is ridiculing yourself. Am I or anyone else suppose to reject God’s good graces to u derstand the spiritual word in order to make one who is blind feel better?

        You need a good lesson in tolerating others opinions and most of all be able to read easy to understand articles. One of my main points to get across is that we should not condemn anyone at all, even ourselves. This is prevalent in my sayings and it is absurd that anyone can say anything different. However with one such as yourself you can call a blue sky red and you only need to convince yourself because I see no one accepting your rude behavior. Love is more than a word.

        You haven’t a clue.

      • Anti is saying exactly what I’m saying. He responds as I respond to what we see as an error in your approach and you respond to us the same way. At least you treat everyone the same. Wishing you the best love has to offer you.

  25. The natural “word” is the law which we are no longer bound. This is because we now are under grace through the spiritual word which is Christ Himself. One is the symbol of the other. Yet as sayeth the scriptures, first the natural then the spiritual. We must leave the security of the natural Word to be fully consumed by the spiritual word for the natural Word cannot give life. However through Christ we receive all things spiritual.

    We are not to live under the law nor be bound by it. The “symbol” or the natural meanings cannot give us anything of importance for God is a spirit and we are spirit…so comes our redemption. If we read the Bible a thousand times it cannot and will not give us any life whatsoever. It may help to confirm what is already of the spirit, but give any life…no. Legalism, that comes by the law are a set of rules old Israel was bound by to keep, yet they could not…for life comes by the spirit, not the law. The spirit was not given until Pentecost. The natural Word plainly states no one was redeemed under the natural Word or law. It also says plainly that the law (natural word) is written for the unrighteous, not for the righteous. This is because the righteous “listens” to the spirit within and need no “man” to teach them.

    Symbols are of the natural Word which helps to explain the spiritual life. So those who are so infatic about coming to know God through the written Word should at least understand this basic concept between the two “words.” To know the written word in itself means one should need to know what the law means in relationship to everything the “written word” is explaining. Yet the written word is a symbol of all things spiritual. The law does not stand on its own. We are spiritual beings therefore we worship in spirit and in truth. Is this not what the “written word” teaches. When we see and know Christ is in our hearts and being, closer than the air we breath, and we converse with Him daily….we are clearly out of the bondage of the natural. Natural Israel today is bound by ritual, as are many “Christian” churches who are still under the law. As long as one thinks God, Christ, heaven and hell is off out there somewhere, these cannot know God. All these things are within us…the entire spiritual book. Why do you suppose in John’s vision it was instructed to take the book and “eat it” completely? This was a symbol of consuming the entire spiritual word of Christ Jesus. When we eat something, we digest it and assimilate into ever fiber of our body…so it is with Christ. We are to let this mind be in us which was also in Christ Jesus…Totally.

    Symbols explain the spiritual life which is above the law of words. The symbols are hid from the wise in their own estimation, however the symbols are revealed to those who seek God in spirt and in truth. In other words seek the love of God and desire it for every man. Seek not knowledge nor be ritualistic in observing one day over another, going to a natural building, doing this or that…but “believe” and by faith come to know and stand with God. When we believe properly we will function by the spirit…giving it little thought…we will exist out of who we have become…
    Regardless of what another thinks of us…it doesn’t matter for we do not stand or fall to another but we live for Christ…and to live for Christ is to love all unconditionally without boundaries. This means if another has a boundary of hate, unforgivenss, impatience, convetousness, etc, etc, then we are to love these same without these same boundaries ourselves. We are to become as the Father and the Son and we do not or will not see to condemn faults in another. We instead should see what we should ask for, for the Father to forgive in them..and ask for these others to be relaeased from their own bondage to the flesh..and the natural law of the word…that they may understand they must be led by the spirit.

    When it is all finished and we see that the last enemy to be abolished is death…. we will all be in the presence of a like spirit, seeing and remembering no sins of our past. We see Jesus.

  26. Rachel, first let me apologize up front for taking up so much space…which I have been determined not to do going forward…but I feel compelled to address what is and is not condemnation. In any discussion, there should be an understanding of how, what and why we speak and share our thoughts with others.

    About condemnation.

    There is much to say about how we are to actually treat other people, regardless of their sins, faults and any mistake they may make. There is a fine line between rebuking another because of their condemnation and the rebuking itself. Many people cannot see and understand the difference. It has to do with attitude and where this attitude comes from; is it seeded in love or is it from an attitude to distinguish oneself from another by what they themselves believe to be a superior knowledge of the scriptures? Let me say this as a matter of fact; if one rest their righteousness in the law and understanding it…and they even have their “facts” right…they are wrong. This is because the very written word which so many put their faith in, states with clarity though one may understand all the knowledge and mysteries in the scriptures and have not love…they have “NOTHING”. NOTHING, but a lot of stories about things…which many parade these facts (although they may be correct) as some form of righteousness.

    Nothing is further from the “truth” for truth does not come by the written word but by the spiritual Word which is Christ. Spirit comes into spirit by the spirit from above. Someone has to be a complete fool to think that the spirit comes through the law…words written on a page.

    Prosperity preachers kill, maim and steal from God’s other children for gain and they use the name of God to take advantage.
    These are the ones who have transformed themselves into angels of light…taking the depravity of egotism, seeking adulation and wanting to be famous amongst the people of God. Let me be very clear here…these are imposters of light. They say the word light…however they are in darkness using God’s name in vein. A person who uses God’s name in vein is not what you think..it’s not saying a word in anger as such…..it is people who use the name of God to pillage God’s people, telling them all manner of lies so that they may gain by deception and at at the expense of others, including the poor. These are the same as the money changers Jesus whipped out of the temple. How many times do you think these “ merchants” of men rebuked the kind words of Christ to the point where the strongest measure had to be taken to rid the temple of merchandising? Our temple in which we are should also be cleansed of all manner of merchandising others…for worldly gain.

    If you want to see the devil incarnate you have no need to look any further than the devil within one who has taken the traits of the devil and teach them for the attributes of God. Pride…ego…self adulation, self importance, quoting the natural word for gain, etc. These thieves think they are being blessed by their thefts? Which of the disciples of Jesus carried on in such a way? It is the love of money and fame which drives the devil within (I call it ego) for one to lie to another for gain…and it is the love of money within many who only think that If they give a little will they get a lot (of money) in return? So goes the saying, let the blind lead the blind and they both will fall into the ditch.

    Yet there is the true gospel that espouses the true riches from the spirit to the spirit within. When we are rich in spirit, we see Christ without all the material trappings of this life influencing our decisions. Let me get back on track of addressing the element of condemnation and what it means and where it comes from. When one has a lack of understanding the word, written or spiritual, they condemn, thinking somehow their own understanding of “knowledge” sets them on higher ground than another…yet it in actuality debases them.

    The following is an excerpt taken from a writing of another that I totally agree with and it may help some who have a problem with understanding the realm of condemnation vs the realm of blessing others. Sometimes God’s blessings come in the form of correction and we need to be mature enough to know the difference.

    Quote:
                “Satan is the adversary, the Devil is the accuser!  When the great dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, is cast out of the spiritual heavens of our minds and consciousness and understanding, the scripture states, “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony” (Rev. 12:10-11).
                There is only one accuser, only one — Satan.  Of course he accuses us within ourselves as well as through religion.  God is not bringing up your sins, your weakness, your failures, no matter who you are: you, me, Judas, or Hitler.  If Jesus paid the penalty of your sins, He doesn’t deal with your sins anymore, they are paid for and gone, taken away, the account is closed.  “Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.”  “God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation.”  What does that mean?  It means that because of Jesus all men are free!  And I have to accept that.  I must now view all men in that light!  I must bear the GOOD NEWS to them!  If I then turn around and bring up somebody else’s sins because I don’t like them, or they did something against me, then I become their opposer from the synagogue of Satan.  You see, the synagogue of Satan is not so much an institution as it is an attitude!
                After a person is forgiven we cannot lay any charge against him.  Nearly all Christians know John 3:16, but very few know, let alone live as if they believe, John 3:17: “God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world, through Him, might be saved.”  It’s shocking!  It’s shameful!  It’s surprising how many of us think God would condemn us.  Why?  Where do we pick up these notions?  GOD does not condemn people!  If God was in the condemning business, He could have done that quite easily through Jesus when He sent Him to earth.  With one omnipotent breath from His mouth He could have slain all the sinners and rebels!  But He didn’t.  He spoke not a word against any sinner!  God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world. 
    We find it difficult to understand such a loving reaction from a Holy God.  We are often quick to find faults and shortcomings when we find someone falling short of our standards or expectations.  When someone says they forgive you your trespasses, but they continue to remind you of them, they are preaching from the pulpit of the synagogue of Satan!  Ah, God will not condemn any soul!  I believe that with all of my heart!  God has a great and unconditional and unfathomable love for every man!  His only desire is to help, to bless, to deliver, to transform and make beautiful every life!  He seeks to save everyone!  He sees every person through those eyes of love and intense and yearning desire for them.  He plans better and greater things for every man, woman, and child in the world.  Does that mean that nobody is punished?  Not at all!  Every man still reaps what he sows — in this world and in the world to come.  But every man reaps what HE sows — not the condemnation and vindictive wrath of God preached by the churches!  God does not condemn.  He does not condemn us who are His children.  He corrects us, purges and purifies us in love and everlasting faithfulness.  But He does not condemn!  Furthermore, He doesn’t condemn the world!  God is not a charter member of the synagogue of Satan — the Opposer! “ End quote.

    As I share and attempt to make some clarity to this fine line between the spirt of man and the spirit of God and who and how we should follow…I hope to have made one one point very clear…we are not to condemn any man, not even ourselves for we are also a child of God…so we do not even compare ourselves with ourselves. This is not a game of comparison to see who is right or wrong, who’s knowledge is more superior, etc.,

    Isn’t being born into this life of vanities and condemnation enough trouble to endure without us piling on more suffering on others? We were born into this fallen state and not of our own making, this is part of God’s plan. To understand that there is no need to condemn what is already condemned is a very good starting point to understanding what it is to be redeemed…from the realm of condemnation. We are not to perpetuate the sin that is already alive and well in us or in another. This is because every thought we should have, just as in Christ, is to desire for all people to be delivered from this condemned state of mind. So do we exacerbate condemnation as we see it..or do we desire to be delivered from it and desire the same for others?

    God’s judgement is one of love. He knows how he created man and why He subjected man to vanity “unwillingly”. It was so that He could redeem all of mankind from the destruction He Himself (through Christ) turned all of mankind to. It is not hard to understand the why of it all when we understand that all of God’s plan is to “teach” love and without a scenario of opposites we do not learn and appreciate life as well. I for one trust that if God could have made it more of a comfortable way to learn about His love for mankind He would have. I do not believe for one moment, that “one moment” is wasted on any of us..or we suffer for a moment without a loving cause.

    Everything that God is doing since our natural birth is to bring us out of the condemnation of the fallen state of mankind. It was the time of our birth we were given our faulty and vein nature. AND it is from this time forward we are being delivered from this same condemnation…There was a time to subject us to vanity and there is a time to deliver us from the same. We need to understand the difference for if we don’t understand God’s plan of salvation, we condemn it, which we should not do. Furthermore it is not given into the hand of man to condemn, ever. Deliver yes, condemn NO.

    We must also understand another important viewpoint, God’s judgement to correct us from our vanities is given to turn us to His love, to “His” image and character. His judgments have absolutely nothing to do with condemning us of our faults, for the action of righteous judgement delivers us from our condemned nature. For example if any of us perceive in another a flaw that is causing one to diss another’s viewpoint, do we condemn this person in a state of feeling superior, or do we look past the fault and decide which is the best path to take (for that person) to understand that there is a better way to speak, compare and converse with another. What is our motivation, our purpose in addressing anything? It cannot be to compare who is more right or wrong, it cannot be who is more knowledgeable, smarter or intellectual for these come from the carnal way of thinking.

    If words given in kindness and humility do not work, then a sterner warning is given…and if it gets to the point we see this one cannot see and rightly divide the word where they still dishonor God we are to shake the “dust” from our feet and move on and let God deal with these as He wills. It was the judaizers that followed the disciples around claiming that the written law must be followed in its ritual to be accepted by Christ. Paul and Peter strongly disagreed with these operating under the law instead of grace and there was much contention in these discussions with them. Job’s testing got more and more severe until he said “I now see.” Once we see as Job saw, we understand God’s purpose in life…then we live in a greater peace and understanding as a result of the veil being lifted.

    So we are to righteously judge to promote the healing powers of God, never to harm in condemning another. To condemn is to cut off, to judge righteously as Christ does is to make all things whole again. When one sees all, as one sees himself in Christ, we are then one. When we see even one as lost from the salvation of God, it is impossible for us to see the love of God for God does not condemn any to death but will redeem all to a life without end.

    In all situations and circumstances, ends and means, there is only one destination…and it’s an attitude of Christ likeness.

  27. Rachel, first let me apologize up front for taking up so much space…which I have been determined not to do going forward…but I feel compelled to address what is and is not condemnation. In any discussion, there should be an understanding of how, what and why we speak and share our thoughts with others.

    About condemnation.

    There is much to say about how we are to actually treat other people, regardless of their sins, faults and any mistake they may make. There is a fine line between rebuking another because of their condemnation and the rebuking itself. Many people cannot see and understand the difference. It has to do with attitude and where this attitude comes from; is it seeded in love or is it from an attitude to distinguish oneself from another by what they themselves believe to be a superior knowledge of the scriptures? Let me say this as a matter of fact; if one rest their righteousness in the law and understanding it…and they even have their “facts” right…they are wrong. This is because the very written word which so many put their faith in, states with clarity though one may understand all the knowledge and mysteries in the scriptures and have not love…they have “NOTHING”. NOTHING, but a lot of stories about things…which many parade these facts (although they may be correct) as some form of righteousness.

    Nothing is further from the “truth” for truth does not come by the written word but by the spiritual Word which is Christ. Spirit comes into spirit by the spirit from above. Someone has to be a complete fool to think that the spirit comes through the law…words written on a page.

    Prosperity preachers kill, maim and steal from God’s other children for gain and they use the name of God to take advantage.
    These are the ones who have transformed themselves into angels of light…taking the depravity of egotism, seeking adulation and wanting to be famous amongst the people of God. Let me be very clear here…these are imposters of light. They say the word light…however they are in darkness using God’s name in vein. A person who uses God’s name in vein is not what you think..it’s not saying a word in anger as such…..it is people who use the name of God to pillage God’s people, telling them all manner of lies so that they may gain by deception and at at the expense of others, including the poor. These are the same as the money changers Jesus whipped out of the temple. How many times do you think these “ merchants” of men rebuked the kind words of Christ to the point where the strongest measure had to be taken to rid the temple of merchandising. Our temple in which we are should also be cleansed of all manner of merchandising others…for worldly gain.

    If you want to see the devil incarnate you have no need to look any further than the devil within ones own self and one who has taken the traits of the devil and teach them for the attributes of God. Pride…ego…self adulation, self importance, quoting the natural word for gain, etc. These thieves think they are blessed by their thefts? Which of the disciples of Jesus carried on in such a way. It is the love of money and fame which drives the devil within (I call it ego) for one to lie to another for gain…and it is the love of money within many who only think that If they give a little will they get a lot (of money) in return. So goes the saying, let the blind lead the blind and they both will fall into the ditch.

    Yet there is the true gospel that espouses the true riches from the spirit to the spirit within. When we are rich in spirit, we see Christ without all the material trappings of this life influencing our decisions. Let me get back on track of addressing the element of condemnation and what it means and where it comes from. When one has a lack of understanding the word, written or spiritual, they condemn, thinking somehow their own understanding of “knowledge” sets them on higher ground than another…yet it in actuality debases them.

    The following is an excerpt taken from a writing of another that I totally agree with and may help some who have a problem with understanding the realm of condemnation vs the realm of blessing others. Sometimes God’s blessings come in the form of correction and we need to be mature enough to know the difference.

    Quote:
                “Satan is the adversary, the Devil is the accuser!  When the great dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, is cast out of the spiritual heavens of our minds and consciousness and understanding, the scripture states, “And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony” (Rev. 12:10-11).
                There is only one accuser, only one — Satan.  Of course he accuses us within ourselves as well as through religion.  God is not bringing up your sins, your weakness, your failures, no matter who you are: you, me, Judas, or Hitler.  If Jesus paid the penalty of your sins, He doesn’t deal with your sins anymore, they are paid for and gone, taken away, the account is closed.  “Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.”  “God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation.”  What does that mean?  It means that because of Jesus all men are free!  And I have to accept that.  I must now view all men in that light!  I must bear the GOOD NEWS to them!  If I then turn around and bring up somebody else’s sins because I don’t like them, or they did something against me, then I become their opposer from the synagogue of Satan.  You see, the synagogue of Satan is not so much an institution as it is an attitude!
                After a person is forgiven we cannot lay any charge against him.  Nearly all Christians know John 3:16, but very few know, let alone live as if they believe, John 3:17: “God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world, through Him, might be saved.”  It’s shocking!  It’s shameful!  It’s surprising how many of us think God would condemn us.  Why?  Where do we pick up these notions?  GOD does not condemn people!  If God was in the condemning business, He could have done that quite easily through Jesus when He sent Him to earth.  With one omnipotent breath from His mouth He could have slain all the sinners and rebels!  But He didn’t.  He spoke not a word against any sinner!  God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world. 
    We find it difficult to understand such a loving reaction from a Holy God.  We are often quick to find faults and shortcomings when we find someone falling short of our standards or expectations.  When someone says they forgive you your trespasses, but they continue to remind you of them, they are preaching from the pulpit of the synagogue of Satan!  Ah, God will not condemn any soul!  I believe that with all of my heart!  God has a great and unconditional and unfathomable love for every man!  His only desire is to help, to bless, to deliver, to transform and make beautiful every life!  He seeks to save everyone!  He sees every person through those eyes of love and intense and yearning desire for them.  He plans better and greater things for every man, woman, and child in the world.  Does that mean that nobody is punished?  Not at all!  Every man still reaps what he sows — in this world and in the world to come.  But every man reaps what HE sows — not the condemnation and vindictive wrath of God preached by the churches!  God does not condemn.  He does not condemn us who are His children.  He corrects us, purges and purifies us in love and everlasting faithfulness.  But He does not condemn!  Furthermore, He doesn’t condemn the world!  God is not a charter member of the synagogue of Satan — the Opposer! “ End quote.

    As I share and attempt to make some clarity to this fine line between the spirt of man and the spirit of God and who and how we should follow…I hope to have made one one point very clear…we are not to condemn any man, not even ourselves for we are also a child of God…so don’t don’t even compare ourselves with ourselves. This is not a game of comparison to see who is right or wrong, who’ knowledge is more superior, etc.,

    Isn’t being born into this life of vanities and condemnation enough? We were born into this fallen state and not of our own making, this is part of God’s plan. To understand that there is no need to condemn what is already condemned is a very good starting point to being redeemed…from the realm of condemnation. We are not to perpetuate the sin that is already alive and well in us or in another. This is because every thought we should have, just as Christ, is to desire for all people to be delivered from this condemned state of mind. So do we exacerbate condemnation as we see it..or do we desire to be delivered from it and desire the same for others?

    God’s judgement is one of love. He knows how he created man and why He subjected man to vanity “unwillingly”. It was so that He could redeem all of mankind from the destruction He Himself through Christ turned all of mankind to. It is not hard to understand the why of it all when we understand that all of God’s plan is to “teach” love and without a scenario of opposites we do not learn and appreciate life as well. I for one trust that if God could have made it more of a comfortable way to learn about His love for mankind He would have. I do not believe for one moment, that “one moment” is wasted on any of us.

    Everything that God is doing since our natural birth is to bring us out of the condemnation of the fallen state of mankind. It is…for it is that at the time of our birth was the time we were given our faulty and vein nature. AND it is from this time forward we are being delivered from this condemnation…There was a time to subject us and there is a time to deliver us from this subjection. We need to understand the difference for if we don’t understand God’s plan of salvation, we condemn. Furthermore it is not given into the hand of man to condemn, ever. Deliver yes, condemn NO.

    We must also understand another important viewpoint, God’s judgement to correct us from our vanities is to turn us to His love, to “His” image and character. His judgments have absolutely nothing to do with condemning us of our faults, for the action of righteous judgement delivers us from our condemned nature. For example if any of us perceive in another a flaw that is causing one to diss another’s viewpoint, do we condemn this person in a state of feeling superior, or do we look past the fault and decide which is the best path to take (for that person) to understand that there is a better way to speak, compare and converse with another. What is our motivation, our purpose in addressing anything? It cannot be to compare who is more right or wrong, it cannot be who is more knowledgeable, smarter or intellectual for these come from the carnal way of thinking.

    If words given in kindness and humility do not work, then a sterner warning is given…and if it gets to the point we see this one cannot see and rightly divide the word where they still dishonor God we are to shake the “dust” from our feet and move on and let God deal with these as He wills. It was the judaizers that followed the disciples around claiming that the written law must be followed in its ritual to be accepted by Christ. Paul and Peter strongly disagreed with these operating under the law instead of grace and there was much contention in these discussions with them.

    So we are to righteously judge to promote the healing powers of God, never condemning another. To condemn is to cut off, to judge righteously as Christ does is to make all things whole again. When one sees all, as one sees himself in Christ, we are one. When we see even one as lost from the salvation of God, it is impossible for us to see the love of God for God does not condemn any to death but will redeem all to a life without end.

    In all situations and circumstances, ends and means, there is only one destination…and it’s an attitude which is derived from the substance of the Christ likeness within.

  28. Soon you will to open your heart and see and know that you are loved and your thoughts respected, but you will learn to let others be themselves. When you learn to share honestly, you will no longer be afraid of what others say about you, for the conversations here, that you fear, have had nothing to do with rebuking because they have not been of a religious nature, but rather a nature concerning the subject of God himself. When you learn to be honest with yourself, you can hold a discussion that has nothing to do with criticizing, rebuking, or any other of the religious subject matter that you are stating.
    My conversations, have had to do with God, and His will, and His love for all of us.
    Please learn to be honest with yourself.
    This was the subject of my statements and they have and hold nothing to do with the religious subject matter that you are upset about. My commentary, has to do, with the realities of Life.
    If such a subject is too big for you, then please do not allow your thought patterns to find ill will in that.
    If you are interested in true spiritual growth, and understanding, this can only be encompassed if you have faith in others. If you do not have faith in me, that’s ok. But your complaints have to do with your not wanting to engage honestly. All of your emotional woundedness, is coming from yourself.
    If you imagine, that others are trying to wound you, then that is an emotional issue you have. Please engage the subject, not wit your wounded ego, which you have every right to pour out, if you see these subjects as being religious, but if on the other hand, you can be honest, and pure hearted in your discussion, you will be heard for being pure. Describe your religious understanding, and hold to that idea about what people can, and cannot say, that, pleases you, but please if it displeases you, does not mean that someone has “hurt you”….. Choose a subject you are mature enough to speak about without the ” I am so wounded ” scenario.

  29. Let others be themselves? This is good advice and you should practice it Mishai. I think you are the only one that thinks as you do on this site. It has nothing to do with being wounded, my comments has to do with telling you, you need to learn some manners. You have upset many on here by your childish behavior, I think you pushed Amos pretty far with your rudeness as we saw his reply to you. I observe what I see as the truth about religion and I warn those who can understand. I’m not angry at anyone. If God can warn people to come out of the harlot system, so be it. If Paul and Peter can go from town to town warning the people of the false disciples following them around then so be it. If I see things as they are and you can’t see it then so be it. I speak as I am led, do I always speak 100% correctly. I think not. Am I worried that some are going to push back with their childish rhetoric, no I do not.

    I speak the truth as I know it, and some just cannot understand the simplicity in Christ. If you can’t agree, just do so with some respect. You attack others, then say you don’t, and when others try to explain some fundamentals to you, you twist it that the other has the problem, not you. Very childish.

    • Yes, God is always going to be doing some new things that you may not currently understand, because it is a faithful saying that new wine is not comfortable for old wineskins. The beauty of the kingdom of God is not a subject that is about one individual, and I can thank God that his work is always progressing. I know that the historical information that you mentioned concerning myself is extremely inaccurate and is actually completely backwards from the truth. I cannot respect any of those comments, or give them any validity, as they have no accuracy concerning myself. That is certainly made up on your part. I don’t know why you would say that, but it’s Ok.
      The Power of God is working in your life as he is pouring out a new abundance of grace for you.
      The greater consciousness of God is the idea of what is drawing us into the outer and inner abundance of all knowing. In order to perceive this we must at least train our thinking patterns, to focus on the subject at hand, the subject of examination, and discussion. We must focus on harmony, and not give in to commenting about the speaker, rather than that which is spoken.
      This is The Word.
      (when you are ready to solve some of the problems in your heart towards me, you’ll know it)
      (you will begin to feel love, rather than anger) (and that is all you will need).
      (that is the prayer work that God is ready to begin)
      But detaching ourselves from the religious viewpoint is not easy, if we go back in time, always saying, “this one said this”, “and then this” “to hurt that” “to be hurtful”.
      Actually in the true consciousness this “going backwards”, is actually what is producing the hurt. Imagine if I were to say “you did this” “and you did that”, and then “I claimed to be spiritual”?
      We only need to be focused ‘forward’ when we are discussing these topics. This is why I said it is simplistic. Imagine if I accused you of being ‘childish’, and then said, “the simplicity of Christ”.
      What could be more simplistic than a Child?
      So, the light is what I am bringing to you. I bring the light to you, as has been spoken free from criticism. It is the light that shows darkness. Whether men choose the darkness, or the light is up to them.
      Are you desiring the light or wanting to be religious?
      So the idea of the harlot system, the idea of the evil people who seek God, it’s all the same religious categorizing, that causes the fighting.
      But the Living God, here is the different story. The one true living God, of which I pray you are being led to is so powerful on your behalf.
      You are learning, or thinking you are learning, and that is probably good enough, for the moment, but to discuss this higher realm, you must step into friendship. It is love, and their can be no doubting on your part as to whether you are choosing this path. To walk together with God there must be a discussion that is free from historical dogma and negative energy. The synergistic discussion cannot be related to this idea of you, me, they, did this? So letting go of that negative energy is the next thing for you to come near this Light.

  30. Then seek to be a friend.

  31. To be a friend, means to be yourself. I have not disappeared. Neither am I dead, have no death in side me, and do not seek death. Death is of the devil. I am from the Lord.

    • If any one person has death in them, then WE ALL have death in us. to be a friend is to remove death(become closer to ONENESS).
      to have even just one enemy is to have death within us all. we all have the devil and LORD in us. but what do you refer to give to us in your lordship. and can you see us part of your lordship.

      • My first question is this. If I were getting to know you. Is this. Who taught you this? Who taught you the idea, or thought, that if one person has death in them, then we all have death in us? Where does this thought originate, and at what point, did you adopt it for yourself?

        To have even just one enemy is to have death within us all? Where do you derive that knowledge, and thought from?

        We all have the devil and Lord in us? Not true. You have one or the other, spiritual knowledge However, all of us have personal choice.

        Lordship, is Jesus. He is the Lord. He must be received as such, and that is where the division from death (spiritual death) and life come. The Lord separates you from death.

        Please note this is a conversation, about truth. A conversation has an interaction, that includes both, resistance, and or, agreement. It is a natural occurrence of conversation and is not, a personal, or professional, confrontation. There is a difference.
        One can make that into a confrontation, or one can meditate, on the subject.
        Confrontation is a personal choice that one can latch onto as an interpretive thought, but it is not inherent to the persuit of truth.

  32. hi mishai
    lordship is jesus in ALL(peace in all mankind).
    no ONE PERSON is within the LORD alone. LORD in all bibles refers to ALL OF US(in peace with eachother). i get my information from EVERY BIBLE(in all its forms) on earth(there is much more being said). , the LORD requires all its moving parts. each of us have devil AND lordship. what i do affects you and what you do affects me. this WORLD is a reflection of ALL OF US(all of our PUREST HEART). we are BOUND TO EACHOTHER… we cannot escape our HEART(everyone plays out what we create in ourselves). the WORLD reflects our hearts. and each person plays out every aspect of our IDENTITY (alone and collective).

    i can understand that if you hear something over and over, you tend to believe it. i listened to every person, every bible, every thought, every feeling, and every event on earth(from birth to death(2nd death)). there is a story within all its moving parts. once you learn one thing, it starts to tear down the BRICKS of deception leading to new CONCEPTS AND REALITYS(opening new doorways). i use the knowledge, and there is MUCH MORE FOR ALL OF US TO LEARN. i keep myself learning rather than choosing ONE IDEA OVER ANOTHER….

    no ONE PERSON can have lordship(christ is a spirit, not a fleshly person) by themselves. but the flesh follows spirit(flesh being the WHOLE WORLD, not an individual)., the SPIRIT WITHIN US, binds our heart to the world(everyone plays out some aspect of self(eternal self, not MAN self).

    the truth way of using LORDSHIP in its original context is that we must see EACHOTHER in the highest honors.
    to condemn any one person(with cause or not), is to give value to the devil(in all of us).
    but to see the HIGHEST HONORs in everyone is to live in christ(lordship)(we tend to judge eachother and say only god does). dont try to disect the words, because we will just go in circles. at least try to understand from more than one point of view..
    i do thank you for asking(even though you may reject), it shows that you are trying to understand. but we got to trust eachother in order to trust in god. you cannot give more or less value to one over another and say you are one in the lord. we are all of the spirit. and CHRIST IN EVERYONE(highest honors aka lordship) is spirit. the world reflects what we create(see) in eachother. and if you believe in good vs bad, the the world PLAYS OUT ALL….
    to me, everyone is part of the lord(see each-other as eternal spirit(brothers)), but we tend to forget and do devilish things(everyone is bad except lord is a context of the devil).
    here is what i read somewhere.

    to love christ is to be christlike.
    to love satan is to be christlike
    to hate christ is to be satan like
    and to hate satan is to be satan like.

    each person is an eternal being before they are individual man. man in the bible refers to ALL OF US(human race aka human heart)…
    when we LIVE IN SPIRIT, we see the world differently. we know there is LIFE in all things. heaven and earth take up the same space, but to live in heaven is to live within a different lense.
    again, i get my information from listening to everything and everyone and all bibles, and i use the knowledge, and there is MUCH MUCH MORE …… when you understand the true eternal LIFE(in all things), then the unconsious becomes consious. we interact with every event on earth without laying even one finger….

    time(direction) = mind(creativity:life)
    space(purpose) = heart(logic:life)

    most people abuse the concepts behind truth(at no fault of their own). we use it to defend our own personal ideas.
    but real truth is shared with everyone. if we dont agree with eachother, then neather of us have truth.
    truth is SHARED(more spiritual than of flesh).
    while answering your question, try to understand before disecting each word.
    i rather have a a friend than an enemy. and to me, everyone is a friend.
    only then can we live within the frequency of LOVE(eternal life itself; on earth ; share in the spirit of christ: and all other names).

  33. Basically. What you are saying here. Friend to friend. is this.

    ~ You, You yourself. ~ Create your own truth, from what you hear people say.
    ~ And then ~ If anyone contradicts you. You consider that to be hate.

    So, what is transpiring there is you are living out of your own mind which you call, concepts.
    Yet, you are able, to label these concepts, as ‘hate’, or ‘love’.
    And yet, for another person speaking to you, they have no way, or means to calculate, how you will process their words, and communication back to you, those concepts.
    For you, it’s an open door, for yourself, to determine on your own, whether someone is hating you, or loving you.
    But for the other person, they have no way to express or communicate any true facts back to you, because you are seining, and stripping every word they say ‘according to your doctrine’.
    You, are defining to yourself, what I would try to say back to you, instead of being able to hear concepts that differ from yours.
    In other words, You would be by this definition, redefining the concepts I would speak.
    They wouldn’t mean anything to you because you have pre labeled them, as ‘loving’ or ‘hating’.

    Now, by that, pre labeling, saying I am loving you or hating you, you cannot determine that, to be true. God holds the definition of what Love, and Hate are.
    So, the key, is not ‘what you think’… It’s not about what you or I think they are.
    The Key, is ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Finding out who God IS.
    So, I understand your sentiments about Life. But, Your Idea, your persuit of God, is not strong enough for me. Because, your statements are about the “spirit” or supposed ‘spirit of Christ’.
    But a spirit, belongs to a person.
    And you don’t have a person, in your heart.
    Just yourself.

  34. Rachel, I think much about many of the things that we share…and death seems to be something feared by most. However once we see what death really is and that a fulfilled life in Christ will do away with death, we will see things much differently. With the right attitude we will actually welcome death to that spirit of death that is within us. With the death of death, it leaves only life.

    A perspective on death:

    From my studies of the scriptures they confirm to me…life is the spirit of Himself which God gave to us when He made us a separate “entity” in spirit without this present human body. As I read Proverbs 8:22 through 31, being about our pre-existence with God before our natural birth, these verses reminded me of God speaking to Job and to Jeremiah about where their existence (and ours) were before they were born. They as we, were with God. We understand that the earth is billions of years old by scientific dating and a day being as is a thousand years in the scriptures, the scriptures also calculate out into the billions of years using these calculations. If we want to go on the six thousand year old earth story in the Bible we must also understand what started six thousand years ago. There are many cycles and beginnings when talking about hours, days, months and years, for example their is a beginning of a natural week but when it ends it does not mean there are no more weeks, for there are new beginnings of other weeks, months and years as well. When there is a beginning of a certain process, it does not mean there was nothing there before, or that we were not there before as Proverbs 8 explains.

    In the Proverb’s verses mentioned above this put us being with God before there was ever an earth created. So, we had our existence and it was called spiritual life. In God’s plan of us coming to this earth there was an increase in our portion and freedoms of life to be obtained by doing so. This can be observed throughout the scriptures by telling us if we “obey” Him we will rule with Him. Being already into existence and having life already which no man can take away from us, God set out to give to us as he predetermined certain things to do in this life just as He told Jeremiah that his fate in this life had been predetermined before he was born. So, we each have our purpose for being here. Since the subject of death is the topic being discussed let us describe what death is and is not.

    Being in this natural existence we have experienced since our natural birth, with the natural understanding we call it life and when we lay this body down we call it death. However it is quiet the opposite when viewed with a spiritual eye. This earth experience is compared to as a dream, an illusion, a place of non reality. And so it is. Life is spirit, and our life is in the spirit we had before the world was. It is the same spirit we now possess behind the curtain of the veil of flesh which is also a temporary thing (the flesh) being that it has an allotted amount of time to exist. It states it is to last give or take three score and ten years or seventy years as an approximation.

    It is believed by some that the only death that is, is when this body has breathed it’s last breath and it no longer functions as a habitation (temple) for our spirit. The spirit does not die as the body dies a natural death just as it did not die (naturally) when we were placed into this human tabernacle at our natural birth. So what is actually the meaning of death? The scriptures speak of our spiritual mind and also of our carnal mind. The spiritual mind we came to this earth with, the carnal mind we were given at our natural birth. Our natural birth is the same time as the birth of our soul. Death is what is spoken of when the scriptures record we were born subject to vanity, not willingly but we were subjected in the hope of being also redeemed from this death through our time being spent here on earth. This natural life is also described as a dream, that we lost all consciousness from our true existence with our Father in the spirit. This life is a temporary existence consisting of a learning experience and once we learn certain things and leave this body , we leave having learned many valuable things that will give us a more abundant life. (i.e. Job’s double portion after his testing.)

    The scriptures tell us that death cannot hold us bound forever for it is a temporary experience which has a beginning and an end. Death is confined to these “seventy” years of allotted time. So the experience of this seventy years is a “death” experience being that we are separated from God (in our minds) for this short duration of this earthly journey. When we lay this death experience down we will return to a life without the carnal mind influencing us any longer. Since death is described as being apart from God during this life’s darkened experience just what then are the attributes of this temporary death?

    Death is the experience of having a carnal mind while we live here on and in this earth. The natural earth itself is the outward symbol of our human “earthly” body. It is this earth in which we are, with its thoughts, traits, and actions that holds more truth about our journey of the death experience than the outward earth. We are here to experience the fruits of the tree of knowledge of good and evil which are the fruits of the flesh which are listed in the scriptures such as in Galatians 5. Included below are a few verses which depict the mind of the flesh and the spirit thus showing the contrast of a spiritual mind possessing life and a carnal mind of flesh possessing death. As you read these verses keep in mind the two minds within us and which we are to pursue and which we are to die out to as we take up our cross and follow on to know and to become like Christ. Also understand that our cross we are to bare has nothing to do with the natural cross just as Christ’s cross he bore was much more than the symbol of His natural death, for it is a cross of “dying” to the “mind” of the fleshly carnal thoughts and coming alive to the spirit of Christ likeness within.

    Galatians:

    16But I say, walk by the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are contrary the one to the other; that ye may not do the things that ye would. 18But if ye are led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these : fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousies, wraths, factions, divisions, parties, 21envyings, drunkenness, revellings, and such like; of which I forewarn you, even as I did forewarn you, that they who practise such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23meekness, self-control; against such there is no law. 24And they that are of Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with the passions and the lusts thereof.
    25If we live by the Spirit, by the Spirit let us also walk. 26Let us not become vainglorious, provoking one another, envying one another.

    So what is death? Death is an “attitude” of having these fleshy traits and what we call death about this body dying is actually the beginning of a new life with new dimensions. Death as listed above is simply our attitude confined to our earthy body while we walk in this “shadow” of death. It’s a shadow, not permanent nor is it reality for a shadow is just a dark outline of that which is in the light. Just as a natural school prepares us for our means of making a living so does this earth experience prepare us for a better gift of life. Upon reading the above few scriptures let us observe the difference of a mind of life and one of death. When we experience the death of death, these fleshly attributes will no longer have any more influence on us. By the exercise of being subjected to this vanity we learn many valuable lessons we could have learned in no other way. We are here to learn to live in harmony with others by experiencing what it is like living in disharmony for just a little awhile. We also learn to have gratitude and appreciation for things that make life much fuller and more enjoyable. The above scriptures are telling us to live by the spirit of life and not by the spirit of death. Our words reveal who actually controls our inward man. Are our words and thoughts kind and considerate to all, looking for the best in people or are they looking for the faults in others? We must understand we are born with faults

    Death in reality is our unkind traits and attitudes we display toward others, plain and simple. They originate from the carnal mind of our fallen nature that we were born with. Notice the factions, divisions and parties listed above of three works of the flesh? These originate from the labels one chooses to wear that keep us from manifesting the attributes of the spiritual traits also listed. What is a label? It is belonging to a belief “system” of man which promote the works of the five foolish virgins that God rejected. Why did God reject them? It is because they wore the “label” of a false church system while displaying a pretentious air of spirituality. Much speaking with no substance. There is no room for the pomp and the pride of the flesh of the harlot labeled systems of man in the church of Christ. What traits are in our temple and furthermore where is our true temple? Is the true church exterior to ourself or is it within ourself? Where can we practice the traits of the spirit listed above except within our temple minds that are within us? Lighting a physical candle in an outward church holds little light to lighting the seven fold lights within our holy place within and living this spiritual light before men.

    Therefore if we display the works of the flesh coming out of our temple, we defile the temple of which we are to be accountable when the books are opened if we do not overcome them before that time. If we do not by then, then we are to be subjected to a further refining by God’s consuming fire until all that remains of the fleshly mind is burned away. Death is but a vapor, while it is something to experience, it will vanish away when the Christ is fully risen within us. The sooner we let this mind be in us which was also in Christ Jesus and manifest it, death will cease to exist in our thoughts, in our words and in our entire being…for the temple will be cleansed when we overcome the death within.

  35. Wisdom is the subject matter in Proverbs that tie in with Job and Jeremiah. In Proverbs it was wisdom that was guiding God’s workman even then. Just want to verify this.

  36. Colossians 2:12, 13 And there is more! We’ve been buried with Him immersed in His death. Our “baptism into death” also means we were raised with Him when we believed in His resurrection power, the power that raised Him from death’s realm. This “realm of death” describes our former self, for we were held in sin’s grasp. But now we’ve been resurrected out of that “realm of death” never to return, for we are forever alive, and forgiven of our sins.

  37. After all is said and done…when death of death is a past tense realization….we will all experience one another in the world that God intended when He came up with the brilliant idea to make offsprings of Himself with His same likeness , His same love, His same are for all others. I for one see nothing but a completed love for all that God created. I can only hope and pray that all can see the wonderful person of who God is…it is the Love that I seek with no ill will toward any. God Loves is all…so we should love all….

  38. There is nothing to see except Love completed… if you see anything different… you are not completed…yet if we are mature we see the other..any other…as ourselves….one to be loved …and one to love the other …no exceptions. Just love the other…any other…saint, sinner..it doesn’t matter…in the end there will be only one way, one way for all. It’s so simple to understand the love of God… there is no negative… long term… for negativity itself is a part of learning the positive…the love of God. When the end comes… it’s only the end of the “illusion” that God is anything but love. Love does not harm…love does not demean, love only redeems… meaning in the end I am as you and you art as me… love redeemed.

    Whatever we must experience in this life….remember it is only to bring us to the completion of being as He is……we should only want for the other as we want for ourselves.. love to its apitamady. Words fail us to describe love… but know that it is God…and whatever He is we will be………….we are here to learn one way of seeing and being…

    • In order to properly understand love, you must first receive the revelation of The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is a love, a type of love, that comes to an end in vanity, where it cannot find the author of love, even as one who appreciates a painting and loses it in a house fire, without knowing the author, it is a painting that is appreciated temporarily, but without being invited to the author’s house, there is no union of the spirit with love, only an appreciation of the benefit, that love brings.
      Maybe this is what you have experienced as the illusion of what God is.
      Here we see why the Father, manifested His love, in Jesus, His Son, bringing the relationship from the author, through the Son, for us to have completed in us ‘today’, and a constant revelation of who love is.
      It is impossible to truly experience love, without, knowing the Son. There is a love that only reflects and forecasts into the future, or reflects from concepts. But the spirit of love, the power of love, that is God’s love, can only come, and be experienced, by those who know, The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. And here is a commission given by God through His Son Jesus, to tell the story, how God manifested love, and how God’s love, draws us to Him.
      The power of God is always manifested around his true love, while there is an imitation in the world religions who often claim they have love, this is probably that illusory state that one experiences when only the mental realm is involved in concepts, that can be birthed by seekers, who sincerely investigate the mysteries of life.
      And yet the Father gave us love through faith in His Son Jesus.
      Without Jesus, one will never find the Love of God, he will only find the world, and the love of the world.

  39. Rachel, I do believe and receive what your saying. was wondering if your still doing youtube videos?
    thank you
    Yelena

  40. Rachel do you still do mentoring videos on YouTube? I feel like the last ones were made in 2014 ?

    • 2014 were the last ones … for now I’m not doing any videos … and not sure if it is something I will do in the future or not.

      • rachel how are u doing ?i hope your still high and moving into the perfection of gods love and faith ,have a super blessed day ❤

      • Hi Amos … it’s such an interesting time now as received Truth from within is replacing perceived “truth” without. Truth (Light) is filling the mind and awakening us from the sleep of the illusion into the real of the eternal kingdom of Truth and this I am experiencing in a deep and personal way. The beliefs that once upheld an illusionary reality are being replaced in an orchestrated progression by the Spirit with Truth – turning reality upside down and inside out. It’s an incredible time for us all – for as we are awaken to Truth, we awaken in oneness.

      • absolutely its called the grace of loves awakening glory amen ❤

  41. The English word “individual,” comes from the Latin word “individuus” meaning “not divisible. It means that if we are individuals we are “not” separate from the rest of humanity but a part of the whole. We are an expression of all that the rest of humanity is, we are inseparable from all others. This makes us a part of the oneness we seek. We are but parts of the whole, we are in Christ, as Christ is in the Father…and we are in “them”, as indivisible.

  42. Christ stated that He separates from all others. All who came before me are thieves and robbers. This is an idiomatic statement that aligns with his doctrine. Those who do not believe in His doctrine, have separated themselves, from Him. He said, ~he who is not for me, is against me.
    The English word Expression, means, ~~.the process of making known one’s thoughts or feelings.
    “To Make known”, implies that their is a mystery.
    Here, Jesus has said that, His, thoughts are different, than ours.
    He said that it, is Sin, in man, that separates, man from the Father.
    Jesus, said, No man cometh unto the Father God, but by Me.
    The World Religions, have divided, themselves, and their doctrines, and their followers from the true path,
    that Jesus spoke about, which is oneness, through salvation at the Cross.
    However, this oneness, is not a theoretical path. It is not one that is sought through theoretical understanding, where some individual says, “we are all one, because we all are”.
    That same individual, could also, be, of the mindset and the understanding, and, the choice, that
    “we are ‘not’ all one”.
    So, that very statement, indicates where the misunderstanding between “truth”. and “theoretical thought”
    are displayed.
    Jesus said, I Am. the truth.
    He said, I Am, the Resurrection.
    Not ~ ” I seek the Resurrection”. Jesus, did not, say~ ” I seek oneness “.
    He said, ” I Am the One that you, seek”.
    He said, many will come in my name, seeking oneness.
    And He said “Go not after them.” They are not of my sheep.
    My sheep know My Voice, and the individual of a stranger, “They will not follow”.
    Seek, therefore, the oneness that Jesus, gave, and not the “oneness of the World.”

  43. As you say and I agree we are not all one as to “entity” , however we are all “one” as to spirit. There is a difference.

    The “oneness” I speak of is all of creation being “eventually” of the same completeness of spirit, and as God and Christ are of the very same spirit…so are we… in them. This is strictly out of the Bible. Within this “oneness” of spirit we are created by God and given a separate “entity.” Each “separate” entity is filled with the same spirit of this oneness of the substance of God Himself. As Christ was filled with this very same spirit of His Father, so we are all to be filled with the very same spirit as “our” Father. This is the oneness that I speak about and this is the oneness the scriptures speak about.

    Oneness with the Father

     

     7“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”
          8Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10“Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. 11“Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. 12“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. 13“Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14“If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
          15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

    Pretty straightforward explanation of how were to be “one” with God and Christ.

    Have a good day.

  44. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit.

  45. How do we o gain “oneness” with the Father and the Son?

    It is not by doctrine or knowledge, or knowing the hidden meanings of the Bible…it is by obedience to lack of a better way to put it…to obeying the beatitudes of Christ. It is not by ritual works but by the humble kind acts of the spirit.

    He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.” 22Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us and not to the world?” 23Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. 24“He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me.

    It is about obedience to His will and His will is for us to love one another.

    Love is not about “being right” about anything as to knowledge but loving God and the other is about “the way” of Christ. It’s about obeying Christ in the context of the beatitudes. What is doctrine? It’s a set of personal beliefs about things…which may only make one proud of what they know. Show me a person that loves another in spite of the other’s doctrine and I’ll show you a person in “the way.” Until the true “Word” which is Christ becomes a part of our substance within we live in the outward world where truth does not have any true meaning…it’s only a shadow. Reality exist within the only temples that are real….and if we don’t know where the true temple is, we know not Christ.

  46. In verse 7, Jesus said from now on you know Him and have seen Him. This is referring to “believers”, only.
    The Men he is speaking to, are, The disciples. This is not referring to Men “generically” as World Religions are trying to suggest, and teach in this day.
    Jesus said, I know whom I have chosen, and one of you is a devil.
    He also said, no man cometh unto me, “except” the Father draw Him”. One must be ” A BELIEVER AND FOLLOWER, AND DISCIPLE OF CHRIST “, none of this is being spoken to ” humanity generically “, or to the body of World Religious teachers, or to a metaphysical “unity of mankind”.
    Those concepts are birthed in and believed in, by the DISCIPLES OF WORLD RELIGION.
    The Gospel of Christ, was brought by the Lord Jesus, to UNDO, THE TEACHINGS OF WORLD RELIGIONS.
    This is reiterated in verse seventeen, where He says “He who ((BELIEVES)) in Me.

    No one can be filled with the Spirit of the Father, It is The Holy Spirit, that you receive, if you receive Jesus, as God’s Son, and repent of sin, through His Cross.
    This is when you are Baptized in Spirit, AFTER BELIEVING AND CONFESSING FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. Those without this faith, cannot possess these factors, or experiences. It requires, understanding, of what Jesus is saying, then the experience follows, after repentance, the Holy Spirit comes.
    THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES, AS A DOWN PAYMENT ON YOUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AS MESSIAH.
    It comes only to the believer, not to the World, or to the men of God’s creation, but through circumcision of heart. You must be born again. No one can see the kingdom, without being born again, in spirit.
    Of which Jesus is Lord. Jesus said, “My Words Are Sprit, and they are Life”.
    You must believe the words Jesus, spoke of himself, to receive the spirit.

    1 Corinthians 12:13 For, in one spirit, we were all “Baptized Into”. The emphasis here, is not on the term spirit, but on the term,~~ Baptized Into. Baptized Into his death, by accepting Him as Lord.
    This is when the spirit comes, just like it came on Jesus when He was Baptized.
    The second part of the sentence “whether Jews, or Greeks, whether, bond or free, and were all made to drink of one spirit, is ” a clarifier ” on the “beginning” of the sentence, meaning that Jews, Greeks, slaves, and free people, “Had ACCEPTED Jesus” AS Lord. This clarifies in the sentence, who had received the spirit. It is not an assumption, in these verses, that “everyone” receives. That would be an assumption on the part of the reader, that these teachings, were “about Men”, and based on the religious theology, that “all men are good”, and acceptable to God. They are not. Men are in sin, and are unacceptable to God. These teachings are not about “Men’, they are about Christ Himself.
    To the extent they are about Men, they are about “the repentance of men, for their, Salvation.
    Not for oneness in general, as an ethereal ideal, or a type of Utopian concept.
    If one reads these verses, from an interpretation that is based on “World Religion”, which teaches
    “WE ARE ALL ONE”, if will produce a completely different meaning.
    That is the teaching of world theology, of which Christ Jesus warned us not to be deceived by.
    This is why Jesus said many clarifying verses, to give perspective, of His meaning.
    He said, “THE FATHEER, WHOM THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE”.

  47. There is nothing to prove…when we see…we just are one with that we identify with…you can’t prove love…you become it.

  48. I’m not sure what you mean, or reference by prove. I know that Jesus proved his love for us on the cross.
    There are many people that see, and identify with love. But they still do not know God, or believe in Him.
    So, Jesus proved his love, for us, and it was He that identified with us.
    What we must prove is our Faith in that. To identify these things does not mean you are one with them in any way. When you identify with it you prove it by confession of faith in Him with your mouth, and Baptism unto good works.
    You demonstrate or prove it “by Faith”.
    This is how Abraham proved it, that he believed in Jehovah.
    This is how God saw that he believed.
    But for us we see the completed work in Jesus. And He is the revelator, or proof of love.

  49. We do not have anything to prove to another, we answer to God…and we live for Him. Our words are not proof of anything…it is what we become…in Him that makes us who we are. If love could be observed and believed and proved by our words, Christ would not have suffered at the hands of those who didn’t believe that He was the very essence of love. Christ “was” love personified, however it was only known to those who God revealed Him to.

    So it is with us in our day, what can be explained and understood can only be by the spirit. When we come to any degree of the substance of God that He allows, this is the degree in which we can see. Words do not let us see anything…it is the spirit that reveals truth to us..and this truth is the substance of God…and truth is all that God is in the spirit. We. Just grow beyond the natural word. The natural word gives no life nor can it, we must live by the “spiritual” Word to understand it and to truly understand it we must become the word ourselves.

  50. The natural creation around you was spoken into existence, by God’s words. And everything you have written on your page is in words. Love was observed and believed and proved by words, because the disciples believed in His words.
    Those who put him on the cross, did not believe in, his words.
    Jesus revealed himself in words.
    One man said
    “”speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed”. Jesus said, “Never have I seen so great faith, no not in Israel”.

    John 8:37

    “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you.

    What can be explained and understood can only be done so in the words of the spirit. Every thing else is feelings, and feelings are unreliable. Satan manifests in feelings.

    I think if one loves Jesus, you would love the word. That wouldn’t be an issue
    I think some who are influenced by spiritualism, and world religions, want to scatter the word into pieces that fit their kingdom, and mingle it in darkness.
    The light comes only through the spoken word, first. It is the realm of the spirit.

    When you speak of the idea, of someone coming to a degree of the spirit, and the degree that you see,
    that is the place where you are attempting to prove it to yourself. That is your way of trying to prove God’s presence. But God is a direct communicator. He gave us the words, he is the author, of it.

    World religions represent an ethereal concept of God. Satan has tried to divide God’s word from the beginning, and he is doing so in this day, through world religions.
    This is how the antichrist will come to deceive many, by words that do not match Christ or an interpolate of the words of Jesus.

    Words are sight. Jesus said, “No man brings a candle, and places it under a bed but sets it on a table,
    so that all who entering may see the light”.
    The candle is His Word.

  51. We should not have anything to prove to another by our words, for we answer to God…and we are to live for Him first. Our audible words, our knowledge or our wisdom are not proof of anything…it is what we become…in spirit, in Him that makes us who we are. If love could be observed and believed and proved by our words, Christ would not have suffered at the hands of those who didn’t believe His words in that He was the very essence of love and the firstborn Son of God. Christ was love personified, however it was only known to those whom God had revealed Himself and His Son to. Knowing “about” things is good and knowledge has it’s place, however one must know and understand that it is about becoming as He is that is the reason for our journey here on earth. It’s one thing to talk about what could and will be from a knowledgeable aspect about life, however it’s quiet another to come to a place to where when we speak, we will no longer be speaking from just a knowledgeable perspective , but rather our words will express the love of the Christ within us. We will come to that place where our knowledge about exterior things does not define us but…we will be defined by what we have become when we will have been completed in all the attributes of the Father.

    So it is with us in our day, what can be explained and understood can only be by the spirit. When we come to any degree of the substance of God that He allows us to mature to, this is the degree in which we can spiritually see and be. The natural word does not let us see anything of the true substance of God for words are not substance, they are only descriptive. We move from the outward natural word of knowing to the inward spiritual Word of being.

    • JESUS, said,
      “ the Word is substance. Yes, words are substance.
      The attributes of God cannot be expressed without words.

      I’m not sure what you mean by spirit. In your expressions, you seem to be saying in words that you believe that spiritual attributes are “ghosts” of love that live in you.
      I think that would be trying to define something, that is in- de -fineable inside you.

      You might try explaining what you mean by “prove to another”? I think the premise of the question is wrong.
      What you are expressing might be better stated as “say to another”.

      The proving is in the saying. Their is no spiritual language, except description, and declaration go hand in hand. That is the spirits language.

      No one can agree or understand any one who cannot express themselves in language.
      Especially concerning religious, or spiritual subject matter.

      Your words can express both in knowledge, descriptively, and they can express love.
      There is no greater or lesser dimension. They are all acceptable spiritual forms of communication about spiritual or natural life. The spirit lives in the body.

      You seem to be on a quest to create your on thoughts on religion and spiritual reality.
      Without words you will not be comprehended.
      The things that you are trying to express, were described by the Lord, he is the creator of language and spiritualty.
      Nothing inside you is so mysterious, it must be hidden or cloak in some private code, that only you understand.
      That is a spiritual quest for mysticism.
      I am not a mystic.
      I am a believer in Jesus, the Messiah.

  52. There is the carnal, and there is the spiritual. We must move from the one to the other…it is a transformation that takes time.

  53. One must understand the difference in the natural word and the spiritual Word. Without this understanding one uses the natural to defend their lack of understanding of the spiritual. As you notice people on here just give up on trying to converse with you because they see that you try so hard to come across as one who understands the scriptures but all you do is reveal that you have much to learn. There is not a requirement to know much about salvation for it is a free gift. To delve into the higher things of God takes a lot of God given discernment…of which you lack. It’s not a pleasant thing to have to point this out to another and this is why people just simply leave you be.. They may not want to come across as arguementive or debating and there is a fine line…of which I am trying not to cross to give you some food for thought. I mean absolutely no ill will toward you or any…and I’ll take the risk of crossing that fine thin line…to tell you…you speak as a fool, calling out ones with a much higher understanding than you have of spiritual things.

    Again, I say this knowing that it is not by knowledge but by the spirit we stand or fall to our Father. It is not what we know as much as it is how we say what we know…or don’t know. There is a saying that is is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than it is to speak and remove all doubt. I think you need to listen more. Sorry to be so blunt…but….

  54. Christ did not have to prove His character nor His substance of the spirit of the Father within Him, nor do we. This preceding sentence characterizes the “ghost” within. Written words on a page do not reside within us. Christ did not have to “prove” to anyone who He was…He revealed Himself to those who were able to receive Him by the spirit, not in the law of words. There is as much difference as there is in daylight and dark of understanding the written word from the spiritual Word.

  55. These are the words of another disciple of Christ who also understands the symbol from the real. As I say and this brother in Christ confirms, all the natural is but an explanation of the spirit. We are not natural beings, we are spirit beings. If we are determined to identify with the natural works as well as the natural world, we will, until God takes away the veil from our eyes so we can see with the discerning spirit which is which and how we should identify with each.

    I am sharing these words below from another to show that that are many others who understand the difference between natural and spirit and how to rightly divide the word of God. We with discernment worship in spirit.

    THE LAND

    In the scriptures all the outward, physical, material, and earthly things that we see, touch, and enjoy are not the real things. I do not mean by that that they are merely illusions and don’t actually exist; they are, however, but outward symbols, shadows, and figures of the true. The true and eternal are the things of the spiritual world! Paul was explaining this mystery when he wrote, “For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity have been made intelligible and clearly discernible through the things that have been made — His handiworks” (Rom. 1:20, Amplified). Day by day we see, use, and experience so many material things — we walk on the ground, we open doors, ride in automobiles, eat food, drink liquids, bathe in water, sleep in beds, wear clothes, and contact a thousand other objects. Yet none of these things are truly real! They are but shadows, pictures, types, and figures. The food we consume every day is not the real food. The water we drink is not the real water. The light that radiates our atmosphere and falls daily upon our pathway is not the real light. Even the country we live in is not the real land, but a figure pointing to something higher and grander.

    Then, what are the real things? The real things, my beloved, are SPIRIT! The spiritual flesh and blood of Christ are the real food. The life of God by the Spirit is the real water. The radiating presence and revelation of Christ is the light to us. Christ Himself is the reality of everything to us! Even our physical life is not the real life. That is why Christ said, “I am come that ye might have life, and that ye might have it more abundantly.” “He that has the Son has life,” said the apostle. All natural life on this planet is merely a figure, pointing to Christ who is our life. If a man’s spirit has not been quickened by HIS Spirit, that man knows not life nor does he have life. “He that hath not the Son of God hath not life.”

    We all live in houses of some kind — some live in shacks, some in mobile homes, others live in modest dwellings while still others occupy mansions. But whatever the nature of our residence, it is not our dwelling place; it is not the real one! Moses, who had been brought up in the palaces of the Pharaoh of Egypt, who also lived with Israel in tents in the wilderness, understood this great truth and prayed, “Lord, Thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations” (Ps. 90:1) And again, “He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty” (Ps. 91:1). What wonderful depth there is in the words of the apostle John, “No man hath seen God at any time…hereby know we that we dwell in Him, and He in us, because He hath given us of His Spirit…God is love, and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God” (I Jn. 4:12-16). Yes, the Lord is the real habitation to us!

    Have you ever realized that Christ is also the very land you are living upon, the country of your citizenship? Christ is the land! You may be proud of the piece of real estate you own, the location is perhaps ideal, the community splendid, the setting picturesque, the view enthralling, and it may be quite valuable. But that is not your land! You may also be very patriotic, loving the country of which you are a citizen, cherishing your life there, and even willing to die defending it. Yet, that land is not your land! Your real estate, your nation, and even the earth itself are nothing but a figure pointing to Christ. Christ is the real land to us!

    In the hidden language of the Spirit, the symbol of “land” often has the meaning of “inheritance.” In some cases it deals with our inheritance, in other references, the inheritance of the Lord. And in addition to these, many other varied ideas are conveyed by the word “land.” In the Old Testament the Lord always referred to a piece of Land. God called out Abraham, telling him that He would bring him into a certain land, which was the land of Canaan. All the way from the book of Genesis to the end of the Old Testament the Lord stressed that special land again and again. “The land…the land I promised Abraham…the land I gave to your fathers…the land I brought you into…I will bless you in the land…” It was always the land, the land, always the land! When Israel sinned God drove them out of the land; but He always promised to bring them back into the land. Many people are still focused on that land over in the Middle East. Jewish, Christian, and Moslem pilgrims from all over the world travel to that land and many are expecting the kingdom of God to be established in and from that land.
    “End quote”

    For those who would like to see higher and more spiritual things, take some time and meditate upon these things and pray that God will perhaps show and reveal the true meanings of the symbols to you. We are not to put our faith in the symbols themselves, however we are to adhere to what they reveal to us in the spirit. All things reveal the love of Christ within our land for all the natural was created to parallel some truer purpose and substance in the spirit. I pray that those who read these lines will look for the love of God in every word for every word is but a part of the whole. In the original manuscripts there were no periods between words to start and stop an idea or sentence as we have them today, this is because every word from the beginning to the end of the manuscripts were to be seen as one thought, with one purpose, where one word was indistinguishable one from another. There was no beginning nor end to one single thought that led into another…for it was written as one…as we shall also become the word without division.

    Have a good day.

  56. Well all these wonderful things you have spoken, in words, which I believe was the subject. Yes, and yes, there are always ones who perceive themselves, or their thought patterns, their idiosyncrasies to be far superior in spiritual insight. Thank you for delving into the higher things of God. My lacks, are my strength and when I am weak, I am strong. Its always good to find someone who has obtained higher spiritual knowledge. The enlightened ones.
    These are the things we are asking you to share, whether you can feel you have proved it or loved others or how you feel about that is great. Your anger, obviously shows you are on a deep quest for God, and learning to speak with those who bring light from a different area, are definitely to your advantage. You will be hearing a lot things that God has to say from the realms of Heaven, because we are the Children he has given to bring the light.
    Giving up trying to converse can have many meanings, but God is still loving you.
    Yes, God has given us the right to speak and to love, and share. Spiritual things as you say are very high. It’s hard to know sometimes, whether you are high or low. Sometimes you seem high and then you may seem or appear to be low.. But God’s love is stable, for each individual.
    How you perceive, and see, and know is very telling. It is a spiritual walk that you are attempting that makes you sometimes feel you are walking a tight rope, with others. Looking up at you, trying to prove there is a balance is a challenge. Some, people as you said are not up for it. You, seem to be up.
    I thank God for the challenge to reveal himself in the midst of this dis balance that many feel. When there is up setness, anger, and these types of descriptive hatreds, this is the best time to apply our spiritual knowledge.
    God is doing a new work here, and it may not appear to you as it has before, where, you have a perception of being alone in this walk or you feel a comparison only to those you have familiarized yourself with, who have proven themselves pleasing to you, but the adjustment is how God brings light from the realms of Glory, and it is by speaking and sharing, and listening that we learn. God’s power is not a mystic, or mystical illusion, but is very real by name, He is the great king, and the light is beginning to shine. As the sower sows the word, even in your wheat field, there is always a stubble, then an ear, then a full corn in the ear.
    Releasing others to speak and share, and show what is in the Word of God is a key, and it is the key of Heaven. From your place of influence, you are going to be blessed, and with a good attitude, you will see and feel the showers of God’s blessing.
    Continue to stay in God’s presence, as we are sharing many new things, you have never heard before and yes, it will be unusual, but you will continue learning. This is the greatest time of God’s love on the earth and he is doing the work through his vessels. Power is coming in a different way, and you may be able to perceive it but you must stay aware and open.

  57. There are no lows and highs in the substance of God. Yet there is in the carnal mind of man. While we are ruled by the senses of the flesh there are going to be many highs and lows, many mountain and valley experiences that we must pass through. We walk through the valley of the shadow of death experiences, yet He is with us. Wherever we make our bed, in the negative or the positive, He is there to bring us to new and better experiences in Him, in us. Now we know He is not talking about natural mountains, valleys or natural beds. These are but “symbols” of our inward life and experiences we must learn to overcome. The entire Bible is but a symbol of something far superior to what it represents. It represents the higher realm in the spirit from where we came and return.

    One who God opens the symbols and parables up to in a meaningful way must be in pursuit of something far greater than head knowledge or understanding the written word in just a natural way. Thoughts of grandeur, fame, or great wealth cannot be one’s quest if they are seeking God and His likeness. We cannot study to impress, debate or argue our point of view, share yes, but when we share, we leave it between that person and God whether they see what we see…or not. We should not be dogmatic about someone else agreeing with us. We cannot “prove” to another our level of maturity in Christ to another, or they to us. Maturity is the substance we are given and live with, it is not something to be proved to another by words or even our actions. This is because we all stand individually to God.

    What another thinks is nothing to them, as Christ told Peter , “ What is that to you, you follow me”, in effect saying what another does or does not believe or is doing has nothing to with any of us. Leave them be. We each stand or fall to God by our own merit. This is why we must respect the path and understanding of others. I cannot think of one place in the scriptures where Christ ridiculed and condemned sinners, whether it was the woman at the well, or the one caught in adultery. These sins were of a different nature than the ones of the Priest and the Pharisees, in which He did have many harsh words of correction for. You see, their sins were not of human weaknesses, but of pomp and pride and having an air of being better than others. Their words of knowledge and acts of ritualism were full of pomp, pride, and self adulation, and these people were standing in the way of God’s progression for them. There need for admiration from the people blinded them to the “humble” way to God of putting God and others first instead of themselves. There is no big “I” in the word humble.

    There are priorities to behold. There is the natural and there is the spiritual. There is the natural Word and there is the spiritual Word. While we certainly use words to convey the word of God the best we know how, the natural word cannot describe in any real detail the love of God. To understand the true love of God we must experience it. The Bible is full of descriptive language about love and some take these very verses and use them to kill the “evil” people so that those who would remain are those they “choose” to love…because they are like them… so natural words if used unwisely are but breaths of air with no substance behind them. If the substance of God is matured and developed within one to where their words express this maturity, then these words have the spirit of welfare for all behind them.

    There is no room for hate nor anger in our dialogue with others at all even in disagreement over beliefs. We just should say our piece and move on. In so far as the entire book of Revelation is a book of symbols, these symbols when revealed, reveal the Christ within us. The very love of God is hidden in seemingly catastrophic events but when understood properly they reveal the love of Christ within. All of the negative things that are recorded in the book are but a doing away with all that is not of God, leaving only that which is of God. And contrary to much doctrinal belief, it is only speaking of doing away with the evil “ways” of man and not mankind itself. It’s all in how we understand the symbol. Negativity in a person sees doom for people in the book, however love sees all of mankind completed in God’s likeness and image once the man of sin is revealed (in us). Death is to meted out to the carnal mind, leaving the man of God revealed. It’s all hidden in the symbol. The end of all things is the love of God, within.

    • There are many other proprietary movements in God’s word. Actually all of these subjects are at interplay with one another. In view of the terminology that we cherish, one must always keep in mind that God has sent, and set the messenger, to bring light to the definitions of his proprietary movements. These preachers, and teachers of God’s word, are called forth with different giftings and these gifts are without a change of God’s, heart. Assuming the giftings and callings of God, are placed within the hearts of men, it is inherent in theses callings, that they are the messengers, sent forth by the Spirit, into the kingdom of heaven, carrying distinct responsibilities, and burdens, and messages that bring debate, they bring reason, they bring teaching, and they bring the power of God.
      There are many different responses to the teaching, and reasoning, and debate, and calling forth of the mind of God, but there is also, a responsibility of the disenfranchised, to decide whether they are in attune with the spirit of a message or not, the two -fold, and or manifold responsibilities, are deep within the servant of God. Love, and the hearing of love, are two different angles of the same protest, and to enter into the Glory of God, power is present to either, bring forth the seed of God in the direction of his specific endeavor, or place it where it is intended. It is not a simplistic event to critique the messenger, who being faithful to the one who sent him bears the stamp of God, and the cohesive language of God, whereas Jesus said, I can only do the things, I see the Father doing, and not, I can only do the things that will please mean. Symbols are words, and the words are in the calling of God, and the calling of God is in the heart of the messenger.
      The servant of God does not base his idea, of symbolism, on the traditional, understanding, but it is combined in the heart, from the throne to the messenger to be spoken, debated, described, emphasized,
      extended, drawn to the heart of, or whatever means the Spirit will give him.. God, has trust in the messenger, and the messenger is in no way, under the scrutiny of hyper judgementalism of his statements because his statements are in no way rooted in judgment of character, holiness, perfection or any other such analysis. The messenger brings forth from the Word, a living message, which is full of light and understanding to the audience he is sent to , and that, produces, the angle of any number of emotions, of debate, or questioning, and are not part of his inherent responsibility, but he is in everyway an announcer, of the kingdom, to produce whatever result God has intended in the message. The idea of internalization, or ‘selfism’ or superiority, is never at issue, because the premise of the arguments, or teaching, in relaying of material, is not based on those ideas, for subject matter, therefore, it is a holy and pure and righteous obedience to the Father, and the Father is the one who is trustworthy, and it is His stamp that is placed on the subject matter, and it is His sending forth, and it is His understanding that is at issue, and, that is, or will be questioned, and that is up for, debate, by the unbelieving heart, who is calling out, to find the true and righteous Messiah.
      The idea of symbolism is important, and it is also, the use of symbolism that is being tried by the world religions, and therefore, there is, a sanctification in the use of every symbol that is handled by those who hear and know the Truth, to bring it accurately from the Throne of the Father, who having sanctified the Word himself, can also trust the pure in heart to deliver the accurate description of His light, knowing that the light will produce the light, and where there is no light the people perish.
      Having understood this dimension God has called, those who have the light, to see in the light, to project the light, and to have light in all aspects of understanding, both within, the mind in spirit. It is not one idea, one set of parameters, that will encompass the entire modality of God, because the strength of God is able to uphold the righteous without specifications to maturity. The point to be understood, that even the ignorant, of symbolism are called to project and carry the light and they to have the ability to point out the light of Christ without subjection to the accusations of Satan, concerning their holiness, or denying their conjugal rights in marriage with him to do so, being his bride they are well protected, advanced and covered, by His, love, and righteousness, knowing in complete, that love is the very reason of all their speech, all their being and they are His, in every way, to undo any lie, that would try and dis sway the power from on high, that will certainly bring proof of their position, spiritually, whether in this world, or the world to come, Christ Jesus, being set on high, who stands at their side, and has sent forth the Angels, to be their rear guard, and stamp of approval. Let such a one examine his heart, but then knowing his heart to be true, speak the oracles, and in the way and with means he is given. That being his righteousness, and that being his holiness, knowing, and pursuing One, he is not on his own but speaks in the name of called Lord.

  58. This is about the symbolism of the promised land and how we must conquer it…remember all the Bible when understood correctly is within us.. where the kingdom of heaven will materialize. Don’t worry about the harshness of life for the harshest brings out the opposite…love at its best…it’s easier said than done in the beginning but when things get tougher just remember it is because God is pressuring you to come to His highest calling. Symbols are used to reveal the love of God, if you see anything else, you haven’t been looking for what you should…Look for knowledge and you’ll get your desire…look for love..and you’ll also get your desire. The thing about it when your priorities are in place, you get it all. This is because love reveals the shadow sooner because love is what cast it… for it takes the substance to cast the shadow. Love is defined in every natural revelation. There are seven ites that had to be driven from the promised land and for the cause of space, I Will include an example of conquering the ties to reveal the purity of what’s left…the likeness of God…

    Speaking of living life within ourselves or trying to live it without I will share just this scenario from the Bible about the seven “ites” who lived in the promised land of Canaan that the Israelites had to “overcome” to move in and take it over. These ites were giants in the land and they were mighty and strong enemies of God’s people, yet they inhabited the land which was promised to God’s people. This promised land in the symbol of the natural land of Canaan in the Bible “represents” the land in which we are, our bodies, our earth so to speak. As there were seven “ites” in the promised land so in reality there are seven complete “ites” in our person. We are God’s promised land, and as Israel (God’s spiritual people) “crossed over” from the wilderness land (of our mind) into the promised land, there were many negative things to “overcome.” These negative things in reality are in our carnal minds and these giant ites must be wiped out within eye us. Below is an article about these ites within us that must be overcome or they will overcome us. Studying the Bible gives us confirmation to what is already in our hearts and minds. To have salvation we need little study for it is the gift of God. However for one to go into ourselves and conquer the promised land, driving out all the ites, one must have a close and personal relationship with God. This relationship is inside of ourselves. The world and its appeal is outside of ourselves where there is no peace.

    This is a bible article I read and which I also agree with and see it the same way…as about who these “seven” ites were and not are in our personal life. The natural ites occupied the natural promised land but we must realize that in realty they represent our faults within. This goes into all of what the seven ites represent but because of time and space I will only include part of it. These seven ites live in all of us, and we all need to recognize them and as they needed to be overcome outwardly in the outward promised land, “WE” need to overcome them within ourselves.

    Start of article. This literally about the problems we must overcome in our daily life.

    The next nation of “ites” are the Perizzites, they are an open or unwalled country. They are defenseless, those who have no spiritual immune system, who dwell in a spiritual land of weakness, doubt, indecision, vacillation, limitation, inferiority, and condemnation. These are always upset, worried, offended, confused, discouraged, distressed, beaten down and full of trouble. Everything goes wrong for these folks! Their lives are one disaster after another. Those who are constantly battling within themselves this inner condition of the Perizzites have not yet learned this one simple but sublime truth — you have within you the self-existent Life of God! How many weak and weary saints are constantly running around from meeting to meeting, from revival to revival, from preacher to preacher, from prayer group to prayer group, seeking Life. These dear souls always stand in need of some “blessing.” They need you to pray for them, encourage them, counsel them, and help them on an on-going basis.

    You can always spot a person controlled by the Perizzite spirits, because his whole world is on the outside. He has no defenses, no strength, no ability in Christ of his own, but is totally dependent upon what others can and must do for him. If he gets fed, someone else must feed him. If he gets clothed, someone else must provide the garment. If he gets bathed, he must borrow someone else’s water. He cannot solve any of his problems for himself, they must all be ministered to from without. He gets no word from God out of his own spirit; others must teach, counsel, prophesy, and guide him. Thus we see that there are three basic characteristics of those in the Perizzite condition. First, they have more problems than most other folks. Second, they are dependent upon others to meet their needs and solve those problems. Third, when they have a need they let it be known until someone comes and meets it!

    The Perizzite spirit causes people to have the victory when everything is going good, or when they are struck with some ecstatic experience, some special blessing; but as soon as the blessing wears off they are so weak they can’t make it without another spiritual “fix.” What’s wrong with these folks? I will tell you! Their source of life is on the outside! They have not been awakened to that all-sufficient, omnipotent, self-existent life that dwells within their spirit. They are unable to appropriate the power of the Christ within for themselves. Their senses have not been exercised to discern that truly “greater is He that is within you, than he that is in the world!” They have not developed to that point of spiritual maturity where they know Christ to be the substance of their inward life, their all-in-all, sufficient to answer every question, meet every need, solve every problem, deal with every situation, overcome every obstacle, conquer every enemy, and transcend every problem within and without.

    God is raising up a people who know that THEY HAVE LIFE IN THEMSELVES! These are they who have battled the spirits of the Perizzites and overcome them, and occupied their land. Oh, yes! Let me present this glorious company of overcomers, even those who have life in themselves. They are strong. They are full of faith and the Holy Ghost. They have discovered the river of life that flows out of their innermost being, life full, abundant, overflowing! They are never discouraged by any situation, nor upset by any circumstance. They are constant — not up one day, and down the next. They seldom have prayer requests. They are always encouraging others, but never seem to need encouragement themselves. They minister to many, but do not stop to be ministered to. They are not offended by what others say or do. They are not oppressed or burdened. They are not fearful, worried, or confused. They don’t quit when the going gets tough. They don’t talk about the devil, or how he has been after them. They don’t magnify their problems. They are not sad, sorrowful, or downcast, regardless of what happens. They always have the victory. They love all men unconditionally, and manifest toward all the spirit of reconciliation. The word of Christ dwells in them richly. They have been given a new song, even praise unto their God! They walk in wisdom and understanding, in confidence and faith, and rejoice in expectation of the glory of God. Their consuming passion is to see God’s kingdom purposes fulfilled in the earth.

    What is the secret to these people’s victory? I will tell you! THEY HAVE LIFE IN THEMSELVES! The firstborn Son of God said, “For as the Father hath life in Himself; so hath He given to the Son to have life in Himself” (Jn. 5:26). LIFE IN HIMSELF! That is self-existent life, a life not derived from any source, not drawn from without, not dependent upon any substance — inherent life! Therefore Jesus could say, “I am the Life!” No man before Jesus could say that. May I reverently add, that just as the Father has life in Himself, and just as the Father has given the Son to have life in Himself, so has the Father given to the sons to have life in themselves! That is the power of sonship to God! Once the Spirit of God has quickened our spirit; once we are joined to the Lord as one spirit; once the spirit of Christ dwells within us as the spirit of sonship — we too have life in ourselves! End quote

    There is nothing more important in this life than good relationships…with God, Christ, and with others. What more important things are we to consider? For two to walk together they must have the same goals. The Bible calls it being equally yoked as oxen are paired together to get the work done. One can not pull against the other wanting to go in a different direction than God wants. The understanding of the difference in living in the inward life vs. the outward life of the world must be recognized for peace to exist in a relationship.

    It may take God having patience with one and “going on and on” with them. When one doesn’t get it, God has to go on and on until they do. God does not give up on us, and ever how much he has to say and do He will. The Bible is a very long book and it takes months to get through it just one time. A couple of pages by comparison is nothing.

    I’m really trying my best right now in all aspects of my life, it seems overwhelming at times and the only strength I can muster at times is just in knowing God says He places no more on us than we can take. I don’t know about what tomorrow will bring but I do know we will all come through it all and those who have God as their center will rise above all things better than those who look for other people to solve their problems.

    • When you look at this article, written by the gentleman, or woman, and not referring to your comments, Sonny, but the viewpoint of the article, and it’s writer, you will see this statement made, quite frequently in this, “when they have made Christ”, when “they” pray, when “they” have a need. and then the following implications by the author are “they” are such failures, “but I have no such need”, he implies.
      My thought is, that Jesus, came to identify, with the weak, and the teaching of Jesus said, “they that are strong ought to bear the infirmities, of the weak”, and “pray one for another, that you may be healed”.
      If you Sonny, were be to one of these weak ones, or if I were to be one of these weak ones, then any oneness with Jesus, that we were focused on, would cause us to absolutely strive with faith and hope, to bring healing to these of which, he is so offended by their condition.
      In, any one”s life, you can focus on what they are pursuing, or you can focus on who they are, but more importantly than all of this, is to focus on~ “who they are to you”, and “who they are to God”
      To this Gentleman?, who has spoken, they are nothing.
      To pursue strength of self, in order to show self assessment, disdaining prayer groups, and etcetera, is probably an illusion, of its own. Jesus said, My house shall be called a house of prayer.
      He probably wouldn’t feel safe until everyone he met could meet that standard.
      God’s love, I don’t think is based on anything in the article. I wouldn’t want to try loving you based on the definitions, he has given, I would have no compassion, through his eyes, if I did.
      I hope I can see you better through the eyes of Jesus.

  59. All that was said above can be said sim0ly as this:

    “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God” (Phil. 2:5-6). Think diligently of what the apostle has told us in speaking thus: “My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until CHRIST BE F-O-R-M-E-D in you” (Gal. 4:19).

  60. The Bible is full of horrific symbolism on the surface but when the symbol is revealed it reveals God’s goodness in all things, both good and evil. To speak or write of the evilness of the seven “itse” in the promised land is Bible…so to understand how to overcome evil we must confront the problem and point it out…however without condemnation. There is observation of evil in this article, however I find no condemnation in it.

    The point of the story is, is that when these “ites” are all overcome, the evil within will no longer exist…leaving only the spirit of Christ. The Bible is different things to different people. To see and get to the positive the “negative” ites must be acknowledged and dealt with. We must have a long term view and perspective on where we are going and there are many negative battles to fight…in a positive way. It’s all in how we “see.”

    If one can’t understand the message, it’s ok, put it on the shelf and get it down later and take another look. It’s not whether we agree or not on certain subjects it’s how we converse about it.

    The ites are simply the carnal mind of man within that must be conquered and driven out and our put to death..so that what remains is the purity of the land…Christ.

    • I’m not sure what your reading, but the negative ites are all in ‘other people’ for him. It’s not a suggestion of what is negative, it’s a suggestion, of trying to judge humanity, based on the idea, that ‘you’ are defeating something, and not, Jesus, having defeated it for you.
      If he were delivered from all of these ites, why wouldn’t he think ‘you were’, and how would he know if you were?
      So, being delivered from all of these ites, means, you can server others, that have the ites.
      So, your not going anywhere. But back to help others, and now you are rubbing against the ites again.

      Jesus, has already defeated, the evil within, Once you receive Christ, you are not ‘evil’, you are delivered from evil. The only person, (personality), who can determine, something ‘negative’, is, God. The term, negative, is relative, to how you are relating to God, not to your inner man.
      If you need deliverance, from something negative, the Bible, says pray.
      God is the power, NOT Us.
      Your inner man is set free from evil, and this is not a description, of a term negative. I don’t think the term negative is even used in the Bible, because, that is a relative term.
      We don’t walk by sight, or feelings, but by faith.
      The spirit of Christ Jesus, is not a Christ spirit , It is not a figurative, statement.
      Christ is not a descriptive term. If you have Christ, you have a relationship with Jesus.
      There is no evil IN you, unless one needs deliverance.
      That’s why prayer, groups, and relationship with others is important.
      If one is in relation to Jesus, it is not about a perfect spirit. “His” Jesus, is, the victory over the ites.

      Some how you missed the part about his, (the gentleman’s) superiority, in the story.
      THAT, IS, the ite, that HE, the author needs to be delivered of.
      And it’s a bigger ITE, than anyone he mentioned about other’s, that he is so superior to.

  61. No, he, as I, know quiet well that the true promised land is within us and so as the “ites” inhabited the symbol in the natural land , so do “they” inhabit our spiritual promised land…which is most certainly within us where we know the kingdom of God exist.

    The “they” you are referencing to are the ites, the vanities we are born with. One must understand that when we cross over the Jordan River symbolically as did the Israelites naturally, to inhabit the land, this is the time of our baptism into Christ. Once baptized there is much overcoming of the evil ites within. Look at the natural story to understand the spiritual. The first is always without, the second (spiritual) is always within. The ites were in the promised land for a long period of time signifying the process “after baptism” is a long journey of getting rid of the evil within.

    There are two things going on in the Bible which religion usually gets wrong or does not understand. It is that salvation is the free gift given to all while being placed into the kingdom by callings and orders is quiet another thing. Out of all who are saved there are certain callings and orders that one must qualify for to achieve after acquiring salvation. The church systems get this order of things mixed up in not understanding one can miss the high calling in Christ Jesus as Paul explained..but salvation is always the free gift given to all. Paul spoke of running the race, this was not a race to salvation, this was done in Christ. The race is to those who pursue the higher calling in Christ. There are three levels, the 30, 60, and 100 fold orders. They are not all equal in callings, yet all will be saved in each order and whether or not they miss the mark of achieving the high calling in Christ Jesus.

    1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as through fire.

    This is a fire of cleansing, not of torture. If a mans work is built upon false concepts and teachings as in the harlot systems his works will be burned up and yet he will be saved by the continuing processing of the fire which burns out all our impurities. So the burnings are the “ites” being cleansed from the kingdom of the promised land.

    One must understand that God’s people are “all” people, whether in prison to the false church systems or the true. People evolve from vanity and though the “systems” are cursed to be destroyed and burned up, God’s children, all of us will be saved…”though as by the cleansing fire of God.” God said He was a consuming fire and He will consume all that is not of Himself leaving only that which is. After all the ites are routed and destroyed, never to inhabit our promised land again, we will be cleansed and stand before God in His likeness.

    Mishai, it is clear you have a lot of zeal for God in seeking the truth, but the zeal of thine house is eating you up. This is not saying you are a bad person at all, but this misunderstood “ite” must go. We all have them and we all must be delivered from them. Just remember the sequence in the natural that God provides is the very sequence that must follow in the spirtual. Paul spoke of being a wretch a long time after Him passing over by baptism and being “saved.”mHe knew he had salvation but the high calling he was pursuing was a thing that he knew he could fail in acquiring if he did not stand still and let the lord go before the battles of the ites….within to give him the victory.

    • Yes there are two elements at play, or that can be describe, concerning Paul, or anyone else and that is the theoretical fact, that is given in Jesus, through salvation, and the actual warfare that ensues.
      However, the warfare, that ensues, is not a warfare with your own soul, unless you have not trained your senses to know good and evil. Paul in the instance you have referred to was referring to his condition, at the beginning of his walk, and not his condition as the Apostle of which he grew.
      If you are still in those initial stages you will definitely see others through your warfare with the flesh in attempting to subdue it to God. When you go further in your walk, you will find that the actual warfare is with the enemy, of God, satan. I am not one who is at war with myself. My flesh or what you call ites, has been subdued, for years. At this point I pursue Christ with authority.

  62. We go through life wondering why we suffer circumstances of varying sorts. We question why God would allow this as I at one time also did. When I learned the why of it all, I became grateful for even the lowest of the trials and test. I can’t say I was or am 100% in favor of these things for none of us like to suffer. I then questioned why I was not 100% in favor of my trials, test and tribulations for though I confessed that God makes no mistakes and would do nothing to harm us. It was just the simple fact that we did or do not see all there is to see. I did come to the realization that God is all love and even the most of dire circumstances is allowed to bring out the most likeness of Himself…in us.

    If I did not believe thus, I would ask that God would just snuff me out of His existence for I could not love a “God” who would do anything but for the love of mankind. I believe this with all my heart and I am convinced beyond a doubt that God did nothing but devise a plan that would give us the ability to see all things as He sees all things and to love as He loves. If we ourselves were to want to bring out the best in others and want them to see the highest degree of care and love for others, we would want to be recipients of that love as well. To give is the greatest of love.

    Now if we as humans can thus reason, how much greater is the true love be of God that we have yet to experience? Faith, trust and hope is the best we have in moving forward in the hope of this reality. There is no other love than that which is instilled in us to “hope” for so we pursue the very pinnacle of what we would hope all that love is…we pursue the highest of what we believe is offered.

    The simplicity of love is not grandeur, to have fame or fortune…it’s like a simple fellowship of seeing others as we see ourselves…no one greater or no one lesser…just a mutual belief in what we would want for ourselves, we just as much want it for another. Any other. All things complete, all things the same in oneness. When this earthly journey is complete, we will have experienced the contrast in obedience and disobedience, the very thing that will determine our freedoms in the future.

    We are here to be tested to see if we can love others as well as we love ourselves. We must see and come to understand as God wants us to see. We must obey to the end of ourselves, the carnal mind , to the consummation of the Christ likeness within. This is God’s plan and when He accomplishes this in all people, we will rest in the Sabbath, meaning in His rest. This rest is when we have entered into Him…which means no more self will, no more carnality. Then… life will be as we now hope for…no more of this death experience.

    It will end soon,,,this lesson of self will…and the peace will be with us forever more…
    So…desire only love for the other, any other, for all will come to the glory of God…meaning we will be complete in Him…just as He planned…and will complete in each and everyone of us. There is no negative outcome
    , there is only the positive. God is a God of one outcome, that we end in His likeness…and we will…there is no end other than we being completed in His
    likeness. Just have faith and be patient, it will happen. This is His promise and we believe it to the end of ourselves…into the likeness of Himself.

    Love to all.

  63. Our Father wisely submits us to all that is common to man,   He compasses us about and leads us down into trials, testings, difficulties, suffering, misunderstandings, humiliations and losses; for it is only by these that true compassion can be worked into our lives. As in the words of another, “Wouldn’t it be wonderful if God could just pour divine compassion into us in some kind of instantaneous spiritual experience!  But that is not how you get compassion. Jesus has shown us the way!  “For every person who may have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself is compassed about with infirmity (Heb. 5:1-2).  “Compassed about with infirmity.”  End quote. Compassion is worked into us through our partaking of having like troubles of what others also experience. Those who have suffered abuse, or illness, or habits, or problems of many kinds, once delivered out of it and transformed, are best suited to minister to others who are also held captive to these vanities.  No one else understands the problem, or the solution, as they. That, is the way to becoming a true Christian, it is by one who has empathy, having been there and experienced many failures and hardships. Without having experienced these “downward” paths we cannot experience the “higher” calling in Christ. To serve others we must have experiences in where they are and where they have been. Was not this the reason for Christ experiencing this life, to show us a better way? Is this not what is written of Him? And Him being our example, must we then also follow Him to our final destination? Those who come before others such as teachers in this natural life teach those who are just starting out in life or who are somewhere along the way..then these who are being taught can possibly grow to become teachers themselves. Those who have come before us have helped us just as we may be able to help those who are coming after us. It is by these hard life experiences that we come to effectually know about all that is good. God says that because He loves us, He subjects us to this life of affliction. We must realize that this short life of trials and test is preparing us for something far greater than this life…and that is not only a life without end, but also with no more of this life’s negative experiences. Once all have experienced and we have learned by our being subjected to this vanity, it will cease to be, for we will all one day be found perfected in His likeness and character. This is His promise to us. There is nothing in the plan of God that leaves any of us in an unfinished condition. Everything we experience in this life is for our ultimate good in living life with others without any more of the negatives. With this understanding we with patience will wait for our deliverance from this evil. Again It will come as promised.

     

    • These are good sayings concerning the character of Christ which is formed inside our soul, as we love others on our journey. There are the fruits of the spirit that are inherently given to us, if we have called the Lord into our hearts, we have received access to this fruit by faith.
      However the Bible also teaches about the authority of the believer, in God, that is in Jesus. Not only have we been given his attributes, but we have also been given great and precious promises, of victory over this life’s problems. Many people believe that God is the author, of their problems, and instigator of them however as one continues on to know the Lord, he will come to learn that it is the devil that comes to steal, kill and to destroy.. Satan is the author of that which comes against humans and it is he who is the author of problems and not the Lord, As we submit ourselves to Jesus, He has given us the power of His name to be used, in both prayer and declaration, to defeat the enemy. The enemy must bow to the name of Jesus. God has given us all power over, the enemy and we are to tread on serpents and scorpions. Be blessed.

      • Isaiah 45:7 tells us who created evil…and the book of Job explains in explicit detail who tested Job at who’s instruction. God is sovereign and nothing is done outside of His will. In the book of Corinthians Paul, a mere man turned one over to Satan that this person would learn to not sin against God. Once Satan buffeted this man and this man learned to obey God, he was accepted back into the church. In this incident Satan was used to “correct” this man’s ways.

        Likewise, in the book of Job after Job was tested at “God’s” instruction by Satan, Job was given a double portion of all that he had before God allowed his possessions to be taken from Him. If you notice Satan did not ask to test Job, it was God’s idea. So in the end, in both of these scenarios Satan went away empty handed, however the victims gained a greater awareness and learned obedience in each of these two situations. Satan has no power to do anything other than at the will and instruction of God.

        Tradition has taught a false narrative that somehow there is another being that has more power than God does. Satan is a tool of God, created by God, and just as a man guides a shovel to its destination to its intended work, so God directs the steps and paths of all of mankind. God is soverign over “all” His creation and He created all things to complete His plan. When we learn to see the oneness in the purpose of God in all things we will then see that both good and evil serves their purpose to complete this oneness. There is only one destination for all people, not two, however each in our own order.

  64. Just wow!!! Miss and love you guys. I hope to be in more touch soon. It’s been another one of those long transformations. Stillin it. This thread is like a great novel. So dynamic. Peace.

    • Hi Travis … I know what you mean, I’ve been in one of those long transformations too – it’s been a waterfall of Truth and hope to be sharing some of it as the Spirit leads.

    • Yes, it seems another chapter is opening as another is closing. God says because He loves us, He chastises and corrects us. It’s not pleasant going through these trials but understanding their purpose, we persevere.
      It seems like many here are experiencing like situations…and what I have noticed for myself, the more severe the testing and the trial, brings a greater desire for others to be released from this carnal mind. In other words experiencing like situations as others do brings a strong desire for their release as we pray for ourselves. When the pain gets to the point of the straw that broke the camels back…and we break through it by faith….we desire never to experience this trial again….and we know it has done its “good” work when we start to pray earnestly for the release of our fellow man from these same like fallen conditions. We know by this genuine prayer for others we have grown in Christ.

  65. If Paul turned a man over to satan for his sins he had authority in Jesus Christ to do so.
    This was not many men, but a man choosing to live in sin.
    If you choose to live in sin, you will suffer the same fate.
    But not those who choose to remain in Christ Jesus.

    Psalm 91:13 You shall tread on the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon …

    Isaiah 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the …

    Ezekiel 2:6 And you, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of …

    Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, …

    Acts 28:5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.

    Romans 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. …

  66. Good to see you Travis, I hope you are well.

  67. It was King David who conquered the Jebusites, the ones who controlled Mount Zion, the place to obtain the “highest” form of worship. This Zion where the natural temple was built to symbolize a spiritual people that was to come in Christ. For one to come to this “place” of Zion, one must go through all the stages of overcoming everything that is within themselves that the ites represented in the flesh. When one comes to God through faith and or baptism, their journey to the “promised land” just begins. Many who make salvation their only destination do not necessarily make it all the way to mount Zion, (the elect) spiritually speaking. Many in the Old Testament allegories stopped and turned back, going no further out of unbelief or out of fear of the ites. This depicts those who think salvation is good enough and do not go on to pursue the high calling in Christ Jesus.

    One who believes there are no battles after crossing the Jordan, spiritually speaking do not understand the difference in the free gift of salvation and going on to subdue the entire enemy all the way to Mount Zion. Nor does one need or have to understand this complete journey in Christ to obtain their salvation. One who claims to already being complete may very well be complete in all that God will allow them to be and see. To rule and reign with Christ on Mount Zion, one must pass through all the promised land, doing battle with all the ites until we have overcome all things. The seven churches in Revelation and the seven ites have a lot in common, which we see them as described in the book of Revelation, as in their lack of maturity. The ites within still ruled in the seven churches and Christ’s warning to them was that they needed to complete their journey, however some said as some say today, we are complete and are in need of nothing. Notice that those who say they are complete and in need of nothing (Laodicean church) are the religious people who have a form of worship and Godliness and much worldly knowledge, yet they lack seeing things in the spirit. They are full of ritual and knowledge of doctrines which they judge others by, however they are void of the substance and likeness of Christ, His love for others is spite of what they believe. We have to come to the place that when we see another, we do not judge them for their lack, nor let it register, we should just see their end, as God sees there end. The only judgement that comes our way, is the judgement that is administered to us to correct us from the carnal to the spiritual man.

  68. Well you need to discover who your enemy is. If you are to access, and to meditate upon who you are in Christ and what that requires, then you will have to determine, if you or Christ Jesus or the devil is your enemy. If you try to teach others about maturing, or going forward with Jesus, of determining the different comparisons that are presented, it will lead no where until you can discern who your enemy is.
    The word of God says, we wrestle not against flesh and blood (people and their immaturity), but against powers and principalities and the rulers of the darkness of this world. Until you are able to designate who that is, and it is not God, you will go in circles, with revelations that lead no where.
    Jesus introduce ” the kingdom of Heaven”. The word says “we are complete in him who ascended on high and sat down at the right hand of God”.
    We are not at war with ritual and knowledge of doctrines because we do not follow them.
    We follow Jesus. How you see others, is exactly how the word says.
    God’s business is to see others, that is not part of our work, but his work is to see others, all we are called to do is love them. If you open your hearts, people will see you as you are, and if you are of substance and you are these things, then people will see that and know that. No one has to access it.

  69. Death…to self should be a welcoming experience. Death is our carnal, negative attitudes that until they “die” will cause our suffering and trials. In God’s infinite wisdom to give us more freedoms and responsibilities we have to go through much sufferings in being tested in “obedience” to His will..

    This purpose is key to understanding why we must suffer and face many challenges throughout life. We can look at the things God brings our way as problems or we can look at them as God intends for us to, as life’s challenges. If we look at them as problems and react to them from a carnal perspective of self pity, fear and other misunderstandings about the purposes of God we will surely meet with them in a defeatist attitude. However in knowing their purpose and in understanding these things as being ordered by God, our Father, we see them as a challenge to defeat whatever God chooses to test us with. It is a matter of perspective, it is whether we look at our testing as coming from the “love” of our creator or do we suffer as a matter of chance. Nothing in God’s will is of chance in the higher calling of Christ Jesus.

    God has no intention of seeing any go through hard circumstances for no reason whatsoever. The death of death…is the death that will release us from the carnal nature that came at birth with this carnal mind. We have been “given” the free gift of life that we call salvation. A gift is not something that we work for, however a higher calling is something we work for.

    It’s impossible to forfeit this free gift, no matter our level of disobedience, however we will have to settle for a lower calling than the high calling in Christ. We must understand that when we pray to,participate in the greatest love God has to offer to us…we must be willing to pay the price and to sacrifice more than another. We must be willing to give up our carnal nature this side of the natural grave. If we want to love at the level as Christ loves we must know what it is to suffer as Christ did to obtain this greater love. It is by the obedience of denying all that is of self and accepting all that is of Christ. Death of self is the highest form of the highest calling in Christ. The highest love comes from the greater sacrifice… so when we pray to have the greatest of love for others you must know and understand it comes with “all” the possible temptations that is known to man.

    To love as Christ does, it is to be able to comfort all people in all of this life’s circumstances…therefore in order to love as we say we want to love is to realize that we must overcome all of deaths experiences…the will of the flesh. If we want the most, it must come by giving the most, without the thought of getting…anything. When a person gives forth a greater love to another, they feel it whereas the one who may be the recipient of this love may not feel a thing. This is why it is better to give than it is to receive. It is the giver who possesses the ability to love, it is not in the recipient…to feel a thing.

    • I think at this point in your comments, in your sayings, it is important to understand and examine something If we give too much thought, if we continue to assume, that our assessments of what is spiritual only, ever involves this type of “micro management”, of our thoughts, assuming that this will lead us down a spiritual path, because we are so focused on the terminology of it, the science of it, the discipline of it, as “greater and lesser love”, “the other person may not feel a thing”, I think there is a trap, there, where the sayings are good, but the diagraming of it, into minute, descriptive terms, I think there is a danger of loosing joy, and the mystery of life.
      I don’t think God wants us to push spiritual commentary into an area where it almost becomes phony to the average reader. I think when we are having fun, and participating in normal human life where we are relating to others without constantly examining our motives for doing so, we are probably experiencing a higher level of spirituality than when we are in a mode of defining these elements to ourselves, about ourselves.
      I think God just wants us and requires of us to be ourselves, and then share our meditative thoughts and experiences, about his Word in our life, as we are living it out. For instance what miracles he is giving us.
      And for instance, even when you are treating people badly or poorly, and are not experiencing a high level of spirituality as you have ‘hoped for’ out of yourself today, out of your “performance”, it may be that at those times you are even being more spiritual, because you are accepting yourself as you are, which is a form of love too, because you are loving and accepting yourself as you are, instead of only seeing God as accepting you and ‘approving of you’, when you are “highly” spiritually perceptive., and performing right, (thinking you are being spiritual).
      It’s good to have the spiritual framework, but I don’t think God want’s’ us to micro manage ourselves, thinking that we have the ability to do so, may be a deception, and not reality.
      This is why the Holy Spirit is given, to do that for us.

  70. As you or any other person who has a thought, a perspective and opinion, we put it out “there” for people to consider or not. As we share, we should not expect anyone to believe as we do. There will be those who agree and disagree with us as we share. For example on this site many read it, visit it and sometimes comment on it. Yet people should accept it or leave it if they do not agree with another. Controversy can be good but to a point.

    You for example criticize others on here and “micro analyse” them to the point where you think you know more than they do in what they think and share. For you not to know any of these people, you simply consider what they say according to your own perspective and if you don’t have a clue of the meaning of something you simply scoff at another’s view.

    I very rarely speak of spiritual meanings of the scriptures in my everyday life because I believe it is in the simple king gestures we have for another that explains it all. However when we are in a discussion about specific matters as on this blog….we are not in person, and another does not always understand the words without the actions or demeanor of another. It’s as Paul spoke of the same scenario, that his words in his letters when absent were stronger than when he was present. I understand this completely because things can seem so technical sometimes, yet when we connect with another on the same level with our priorities at least in the same order…our words and our intent connect where “we get it”. All levels of understanding as I’ve said before are not all for the same people.

    Regardless of what someone believes or understands there is a certain level of respect that should cover all levels of understanding without dispute for it is not “what” we believe but “how” we believe is what is important. We must move beyond the letter of the law by natural description to understanding the spiritual law which is “a way” of being, not a way of believing. Believing can lead us to being a certain way but believing must be taken into the context of a metamorphosis taking place, just like the word “know” is a law term and the other “know” is a spiritual term. As we move from the natural mind to the spiritual mind, what we know under the law which is “without” us, the spiritual knowing we take on is a much deeper experience for to truly know someone as this meaning in the Bible, it is a knowing of intimacy between two who think, talk, walk, and do alike. We come to be like our Father because we have come to “know” Him. This knowing, there are no words for, for only those who understand this knowing, they understand it’s in the being.

    We all have our understanding and we are all growing toward a common goal. May we learn to respect all as we walk forward.

  71. “Kind” that is.

  72. Well, that’s wonderful. Maybe God sent me to challenge your latent perspectives. If God’s goal is for me to be the one that will awaken you to a different arena, so that you can expand, then I have done a good job. If I took your point of view, and saw myself negatively, as you have proposed, then that would mean I do not have faith, in my self or God. It would mean I was an enemy that you must reject or flee from, and yet in your ideology, you have stated that God sends these things to you. So, if you criticize me, you criticize him through your own philosophy.
    I am here to be myself, as I was saying to you previously, if you love yourself, you can understand that it’s not my love for you, that proves these things to you. Because you can turn against my love. That’s easy to do. But to relate to my love, that’s the hard part. In your sayings you are stating that you cannot expect me to believe you. And that is a theoretical, black hole.
    It’s not my weaknesses that bother you, it’s the places where I speak to your heart. That’s what bothers you. And it’s Ok. It’s what I’m here for. It’s why God created me.

  73. Yes, there are people who God puts in people’s life to do a specific testing and work. Mainly it is that, people of different views about God’s plan must learn to tolerate the views of others without going south, so to speak. I believe this is the main purpose of God permitting man to create so many different religions. One purpose is to understand we must not create our own way (religion) outside of God’s will and way and the other is that since we have, we must learn to respect other people of whatever religious persuasion they may be of. God will awaken us from all of our dream states in whatever we need and lack and also provide the means to build us back into His image as He originally declared. We’re all like rough stones in a tumbler and it is the edges of one stone which smooths out the edges of another until all “stones” become as smooth as the other. It’s our rough edges that murmer and complain along “the way” as did the children of Israel in the wilderness on the way from Egypt (flesh) to the promised land of the spirit. They did not understand that this “tumbling” experience was actually a part of what would help make them in God’s likeness and image. This natural wilderness experience is a type of our spiritual wilderness experience where God decides if we are yet ready to cross over the Jordan so to speak and to be able to take on our inner enemy of self, depicted by the seven “ites” in the promised land. There is a time period of Passover, Pentecost, and the Feast of Tabernacles we must pass through and to, and we cannot pass from one phase to another phase until we have been exercised in the amount of time needed in each of these phases of our progression.

    No, we are not perfected at or in baptism as this is Passover. Passover has to do with salvation, and most know there is a Pentecostal experience next, however many do not understand the last feast which is the Feast of Tabernacles which is our final destination where all things are returned to us that was lost, plus even more. In our journey through this life as we obey and pass through each test and obstacle and overcome these challenges we gain understanding of that which is before us. As most all the children of Israel of the first generation which came out of Egypt did not cross the Jordan in the natural, most will not cross it spiritually in this life either. Many are satisfied with salvation only and do not see nor understand the entire plan of God, nor the higher callings which God calls some of us to. Higher callings are not something to claim or to be proud of because the highest calling in Christ requires the most humbling of circumstances and as a result a most humble attitude towards all. A carnal minded “religious” man that can only see things naturally will always scoff at the spiritual minded person, even within our own selves our carnal mind gives the spirit within condemnation. The carnal mind is about “me” and the spiritual mind is about all of “us” and what is the will of God as it pertains to all.

    Life is a journey and God uses it and places us in the calling of His choosing. A religious man is carnal minded in his infancy in Christ and the carnal minded person is always looking for the negative things to complain about toward the spiritual side of life, whereas the spiritual minded man sees the positive in all things, both good and evil. This is because the spirit of God in a spiritual person sees that God means well in all of His ways and whatever He sends our way is a valuable thing. God created both good and evil (Isaiah 45:7) to develop man into His likeness and image. All things work together to this end as we see in the person of Job. Job is not a history lesson nor is it so much a story about a man named Job, as the book is an allegory about each individual’s testing as God warrants. The book of Job is an example of each individual’s life and what one must pass through to be tried for their individual purpose. Even Jobs accusers received correction and discipline in the course of this narrative that was to their own benefit. They were forgiven for their error in condemning Job and as a result learned their condemning of another as they were doing was not accepted by God. God has a way of working an interaction between people for the good of all that are involved.

    So whoever we are and where we are along this path to being made into God’s likeness and character, God will do what is the best for us and “any” correction is only for the ultimate good of us all. One can be sure in God’s purpose the ends do justify the means. It will all end in the perfected plan God made before the world was. God said He set out to make man in His likeness and image and this He will do for “every” man. “For as in Adam All die so as in Christ all shall be made alive, but every man in his own order.”

  74. I don’t know that God will awaken us all from whatever dream state we are in. We are in a position to be led by God’s Spirit when we know His Word.
    Many people are being , misled “into” a dream state by Satan. This is why God sends ministers of the Gospel to preach the word.

    People who are led by God’s spirit, respect all people, but they do not respect the religions of the devil, they are sent to overpower them, through God. These are the strongholds of the enemy and God’s word is the Power of Salvation, and the Holy Spirit is the power of God unto us.

    Job was under a different dispensation, of which we are no longer under the same paradigm. He was not involved in the teaching of “the Kingdom of Heaven’, of which we are currently following in the administration of.
    Job being the oldest book in the Bible, the Word says that death reigned from Adam to Moses.
    That was the administrative period of Job, and entails a different relationship for them to God.
    Satan was at that time still in control of much of the earth, and held a different authority before Jesus dethroned him.
    In the New Covenant that Jesus gave, Satan is under our feet.
    The name of Jesus is above every name, and Jesus has dethroned the kingdom of darkness.
    The Word of God states in Hebrews, that “they looked for a city but did not obtain it, they without us not being made perfect, but God having saved the fulfillment of the promises for us.”

    We are living in the dispensation of the New Covenant, not the Old Testament.
    This is a Covenant given by Jesus, to us, and it entails victory over Satan.
    The devil is no match for Jesus, and believers have Jesus name and authority.

  75. For those of us who worry and fret at times, questioning why? Why are we here, why do we have to suffer the pains of life, why do we get confused and seemingly lose our way at times? Why do we?

    It is to:

    “Let “us” make man in our image, after our likeness…” as God said to those who were with Him in the beginning of “this” plan of redemption. We had to be sold into slavery to a natural, carnal mind in order to then be redeemed from the same, thus the fall of Adam. A redeeming process was started, in order to teach us disciplines that would equip us to accept a more abundant life than we had before coming into the experience of this life. And so this is why we are here…we are being put through a process of coming out of this life with having life more abundantly. This process is designed by the most intelligent means of design there is, and this is from the sovereign mind of God. In understanding the scriptures properly, we understand and see that every knee will eventually bow to the will and to the ways of God. This is saying that all of His children that He creates will be processed and schooled to be just like Himself. He did not say to make some men…. but to definitively make man in His image. So he has and will continue to do so…until His plan is completed without any deviation from what He set out to do…complete every man in the likeness of Himself.

    So, this life as we know it, as the valley of the shadow of death, is an experience to bring us all to a likeness of God’s likeness, therefore we can rest assured that He will complete His work in each of us, because we are His workmanship, as we are not of our own design and will. Our calling and order was predetermined by Him through His Son whom He gave power to create. Therefore by faith we accept all the circumstances in life that will bring us to this conclusion. When we have seemingly lost our way and don’t know which way to look or which way to turn, we will come to know “by faith” God knows exactly where we are along our path “by degree” and just exactly what it will take by “degree” to get us to our destination. This is why we are to trust in another and to not trust in our own carnal intellect for direction through this life. We only fail because we trust in ourselves, thinking we know better than God. What fools people can remain in their selfish disbelief of God’s sovereignty in our everyday life. We are therefore to go on living with a faith in another who knows our path when we do not, and having a belief that we will all arrive at our predetermined destination, with an exactness that will happen without fail.

    We come to many crossroads in life, perplexed as to what we should be doing, how we should be “helping” God and wondering what are the consequences of the choices we make. We make many mistakes in our infancy in Christ, desiring to do what is right without the understanding that it takes time and maturity to learn what it is that is required of us…impatience leads us to many wrong turns. This is the intellect, the carnal mind of reasoning, the same mind that convinced Eve (our soul) to err in making her (our) own decisions. As we come to these crossroads in life, it is best to be still and to be quiet…and to trust and let the Lord bring the things our way that will keep us on track in bringing us to His image and likeness. He has absolutely all things under control and will only allow those things in our daily life that will keep us on track, this we know, for we believe His Word when He says that every knee will bow to the way and will of God.

    It may take just a gentle nudge to keep some of us on our path, however it may take a few stripes of correction for some or it may take many for others to keep us going in the positive direction of fulfilling His will and His order of things. However it matters not how great our obstinance, our will, will be broken in God’s timing for us. There will only be one outcome and one plan completed and that is the plan and script that was written before this world was created and put into existence. It was determined in the many ages past what we would be, and what we would be doing….and this plan of salvation was put into place to give us not only life, but life more abundantly. This is because we already had life in the spirit…and yet God had something greater to give us…a more abundant life with more freedoms and responsibilities. So a plan was devised to bring us to a place where we can have the full faculty of mind to accept this greater gift of a greater life.

    It was planned, decided and sealed where we would each fit into this universe of life before we were ever born into and onto this earth. The country and family of our birth was as carefully decided just as was the number of hairs on our head. The end of us was decided as was our beginning so all we worry, fret and fear is from our own lack of understanding and faith… of who God is and what He is doing. A lot of our fears come from our own lack of faith and mistrust in that God will not do as He promised. We err when we give our belief to another power that does not exist in that it may alter God’s plan for us. God is sovereign, there is no other power but of God and all that happens is with His knowledge, awareness and consent. This is because God created all things to bring all of His creation to His preordained conclusion. There was no indecision or foreseen problem…at all. Everything is right on target. We fear because we doubt, however in knowing that Love cast out fear, we will come to a place of having no fear of anything. This is because when we have come to the end of believing in and having confidence in ourselves, we will then enter into a new belief in Him. Therefore we will have quit trying to circumvent God’s will for us and we will have come to learn how to be still and to let Him do the work in us that is needed.

    Matthew 6:34 Be not therefore anxious for the morrow: for the morrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

    Meaning that all the things that will be sufficient for us to experience will be provided by God to teach and discipline us to the completion to our individual and corporate destination. This above passage means that the evil that will be provided to us for us to experience in any given day will be provided…so we should quietly with faith and trust, believe what is needed for us will be provided to us. So we should deal with today’s problems as challenges put in our life to overcome them, therefore learning valuable things about living life within the will of God. While some will resist these God given evils in our daily life others will see the value in these experiences and take notice and meditate upon them…and learn from them. We learn from our daily experiences, both good and evil, as this is the meaning of the sufficiency of daily evil coming into our life. It is from God.

    Our peace comes from knowing that the love of the Father will do us no harm, knowing that the end of us will justify the means of our discipline…in accomplishing His likeness and character within us. This is the plan. When we look into the future present tense of things, when all will be complete, we will be known as we are known, with no loss of anyone. The loss we will all experience is the loss of the carnal mind within us, which is the last enemy called death. The mind of God is life…the carnal mind of man is death. We will die out to the mind of one to the take on the mind of another….the mind of Christ.

    We will all stand in the presence of our Father having come to His very likeness, nature, and love. This plan with all it’s suffering which is to lead us to all which is good, will complete us, each in our own time and order. When the final day of God’s plan comes to its end, which was predetermined long ago…we will all have been completed as He saw us in our completed state before the world began.

    So again, let each of us have confidence and come to the realization that God does nothing outside of what is only best for us and all that he has done and will do for us comes from only the sovereign source of His love. We may experience a given temporary blindness but in time we will all stand completed in a singleness of sight and mind and love and we will then see this journey as having been but a means to a good end…of being made perfect just as God originally intended to do without any thought of deviation from His plan whatsoever. We with confidence of coming to possess a new mind in Christ, will see all of this come to pass…in us all. The purpose of God was to bring all of mankind to a oneness of likeness and character, just like Himself, and this will He do. When God makes a statement it “is finished” before the fruition has come to pass this is because there is no turning from His promises, therefore He can make such an assured declaration of us also being finished as though we already were. Knowing this should give us the ability to also see that we are the same as finished. What a wonderful plan.

  76. I absolutely agree with you Rachel.
    Lovely to see you are on the narrow path. Thank you for all that you have beeping sharing over the years. 🙂

    (Sometimes explaining the kingdom of Heaven to people in this world is very similar to trying to describe the color Lavender to a blind man, blind since birth).

    Once they finally get that glimpse of the pearl, they will want nothing more than to sell everything. 🙂

    P.e.a.c.e

    • You are right … to put truth you’ve received from within into words is challenging for various reasons …. and yes – you do want to “sell” everything because you realize that the “everything” is nothing and what you found in that pearl is everything and beyond. What a profound journey.

  77. Yes, Eternal life is right here and right now so long as we have renounce, fight and die to sin and receive Christ who will come to complete our salvation and translate us from the kingdom of death (world) into the kingdom of life (heaven) while we are here and forever.

  78. This is the great healing that must come. This is the healing Christ promised. This is the healing that is beyond anything physical man has ever dreamed of, or even longed for. In this great and glorious healing the effects and results of all one’s errors and sins and weaknesses are washed out into the great ocean of God’s creative power and are transformed and transmuted as they are adjusted to conform to His divine and holy plan. The dynamic powers of God are the powers of creation. The powers of His forgiving love, as one partakes of it, through obedience, contains also the power of “un-doing” all the evils one may have wrought during his blind, arrogant living, or by his great ignorance or deliberate rebellion.

    It must be here remembered that in God’s plan is held all the perfection, the splendor and the honor and glory possible for one to receive……

  79. The only way to be a part of the solution is to have first been a part of the problem.

    Life’s lessons are learned most often through very trying and difficult circumstances. Many things happen to us as we grow up, disfunction’s within our families, abuses from others, finances, broken relationships and marriages…and the list goes infinitely on. We are often left bruised, weak and mentally dysfunctional in one way or another. Life can be a brutal experience…however when we come to see God’s overall plan for us in this life we can then see that even the most negative events in ones life can be the very thing that releases our mind and gives us enlightenment and happiness. All of this life is designed for one purpose and to one end….and it is all good. The temporary means nothing. It is the permanence in the end which matters so let us look to the end far past the present difficulties keeping our hearts and mind on the goal.

    God devised a plan that would teach us about how to get along in life with all people and to let love be our guide and the thing which is paramount in our life. Love is not about self as much as it is about reaching out to others in their needs. How can someone be of any value to another in being there for them or understanding them unless they can empathize with them by having been in similar situations? Even Christ said He came to this earth to experience the pains of this life so He could be touched by our infirmities, having experienced for Himself our problems in every point…so that He could succor and comfort each of us. To succor means to be able to help in times of pain and hardships. So He went through the pains we are to go through, taking a part in the process in which He created.

    So it is so…that we also have to have experienced life’s lowest challenges in order that we may then overcome them within…and when we do…we can then be a part of the solution where in the past we were only part of the problem. There comes a time in everyone’s life where there is a turning point and this turning point is decided by God. Many are turned easily and others are more stubborn and self willed, however God will do what ever it takes to teach us that it is better to get out of our selfishness and get into selflessness where we start to see the better part of life is when we have taken our negative past and learned from it. We can then can start showing empathy and compassion towards all in whatever condition they are in and love each one unconditionally.

    As we move and crossover from our past and the negative part of our lives into a new world of love and compassion for others we realize we could have never been of any true benefit to any unless we had suffered through all the negatives that were placed in our life in order that we could learn from them. The negatives were not given as a permanent place in our life…once the lesson is learned, the negatives cease to exist in our life. We learn by negative, selfish experiences that life without love is no life at all…and we will remain in a negative, selfish mindset until just the right time of understanding and realizing the why of it all.

    There is no way to really and truly love another until one is shown a contrast to what love is really all about, thus the reason for the negativity being placed into our life. We should not see this as a bad thing as many can only see it. Living in the negative is the foundation for teaching us the greater love that is to come later. The negative part of life is one of the building blocks to a true and happy life. However we must see that everything has its place in growing toward our destination. If we understand God’s overall plan and participate in it by being obedient to His will (denying our own) we will grow much sooner without as much pain. To obey His ways and will, brings peace to our life just as rejecting God’s way brings much stress to our lives.

    There is nothing wrong with where we have been, what we may have done wrong in the past, it is only important if we can see and to have learned by our mistakes. It is only by having made mistakes that we can become better people. This is why God blinded us at birth to our prior existence with Him and gave us all our vanities, weakness’s and faults. He did this so that we could experience the opposite of His love so that when we are returned to our sanity, to Himself, …we can then see the value in being obedient to a love of life, having experienced life without it for awhile.

    Life was designed with all its ups and downs for only one reason and it is as stated, “ Christ devised a plan to give us life and life more abundantly”, meaning that the “more abundant” part that is to be given to us is a result of this experience in life we call vanity. With God nothing is created and designed to harm us, life was and is only designed to give us life and life more abundantly. This is God’s only purpose in that He lets us suffer for just a very short time. God loves us infinitely and unconditionally.

    We are here to be taught to love all as unconditionally just as God does…and we will…each of us in our own order in time… this is just what is taught in how we will be made whole in the scriptures.

    So when we cross over to being a part of the solution, it will only be as a result that we had to grow through being a part of the problem to start with so all things work together for those who love God…and we will all come to love God…because we are only hidden from His love for just a short period of time to have learned all that we need to. So we must pray and study to know that God is really one hundred percent for us and zero percent against us. His plan is complete and there is no negative outcome in any of it… it is just that the ends have justified the means. So we should focus on the positive “end” of ourselves and not on the negative, temporary “means” of getting there. It is all good.

    • These three, love and praise and thanksgiving, will reveal that door at which Christ stands knocking. That door is “The Great Christ Door!” As you open that door by using your keys of love and purified praise and gratitude, you will know of the “Front Door” of the temple and you will be able to step through it into the life more abundant — not by dying but by learning to Live. This “Christ door”, within yourself, is His door, the doorway to LIFE, the great FRONT DOOR to the higher realm.

      • Yes, If we could just focus on walking through the door which Christ is we are looking forward into a loving positive life….as we walk through the door (of life) into the presence of all that Christ is, we without thought are moving away from our past..or that which is behind us. It’s like taking a walk on a beautiful day, each step we take, is a step away from what was…and what remains is what is going on in the moment..as we head into the future… knowing that at the end of our walk…there will just be an “I “Am” existence. We will never repeat that last step we just took…because we are concentrating on that step which is, and those steps which lay before us.

        We will never walk purposefully and rightfully by looking back with our head twisted around trying to see where we’re going. It just doesn’t work that way. In the simple physics of just walking straight ahead is in itself a bountiful lesson of life…

  80. As one kneels before that altar within his own being, in humble adoration to God, the sacred flame will be lighted. It is then the fires of that cleansing, purifying flame begin to ascend as incense before the Lord. Within this holy flame is the power to release the heart-felt prayers of the Saints and lift them to the very throne of God. It is by going within his own temple, love-filled and humble, that makes one a saint. No church can make a man a saint. One becomes a saint according to his degree of devotion to the Lord, not to any organization.

  81. It is when one has learned also of the powers of the mind and has begun, in some measure, to use this divine instrument of thought correctly, that he will realize he is divinely fashioned and has a great and marvelous destiny to fulfill. It is then that he will become aware of a great door — and he will know that it is the “Christ door”.

  82. “…And God said, ‘This is my work and my glory, to bring to pass the immortality and the eternal life of man.’ Since that is God’s work and His glory, it is also ours, for it would be impossible for Him to accomplish it without our co-operation. We must understand life and its purpose. We must comprehend our place in the great scheme of things. We must fully comprehend the great drama of the ages that has preceded our advent into this world, to take our place upon the stage of existence, and to fulfill our parts with honor. We must understand also the things that are coming on the earth, and the things that will continue to come until Righteousness is sent to rule. How can we act well our part upon the stage of life unless we understand the great plan of life? And life was meant to be eternal progress, not drab, deadly, dull, unprogressive existence.”

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