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Mount Zion is Awaiting You

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Mount Zion is Awaiting You

 

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

In a previous post, I mentioned the transition that is occurring from the kingdom of darkness to the Kingdom of Light. The kingdom of darkness has been ruling since the Garden of Eden when self-will took over, but now history is replaying itself from the beginning and redemption is at hand. God is calling His people out of Babylon and to enter into Zion, the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. It’s your refuge, fortress and defense in these days, as I will show you.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

As death came through one man, how much more life through the One? Yet we’ve haven’t seen this happen. Death and sin have clearly been reigning on the earth as lies prevailed. But that reign is coming to an end and faith is the victory. 1 John 5:4 The faith is the faith of Christ (belief of pure truth in the power and love of God); the only One with the faith to destroy death. This faith has entered the world as a mustard seed and is growing. Matthew 13:31-32 It’s a faith available to you by Christ’s spirit dwelling within you and leading you in the paths of righteous love. Hebrews 12:2 Your part is to listen and follow to His voice. It’s the baptism of the spirit, a good conscious, because you are directed and governed by God. 1 Peter 3:21

Romans 5:15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many.

Entering Into The Kingdom of Heaven

The Kingdom of God, Zion, is growing in power and grace. 1 Peter 1:13 This Kingdom of Truth is where God’s ways reign. Those who dwell there live by the spirit of God within them. Romans 8:14 They obey His still small voice saying, “walk this way” turning at His rebuke. Isaiah 30:21, Proverbs 1:23. In doing so they enter His rest, which is the venue of His power. (When you are at rest, complete trust in God, God is at work, thus His power flows through you.)

God’s truth is taking over and consuming the lies. If you are a part of Him, rest and peace will grow in your life as you follow His voice of truth. John 10:4  In following truth, you’ll escape the manifestation of the lies. 2 Thess 2:10 Being a part of Zion is being governed by God. Therefore, you are in a place of rest in your life, because it’s not your effort but His. Hebrews 4:9-11 Rest is the ark; it’s the good conscious of God in you. 1 Peter 3:20-21 Rest is the rapture out of the tribulation coming on the kingdom of darkness. Rev 3:10 Rest is trusting fully in God and not self, thus listening and walking in His ways. If you are living according to His ways, you are abiding in His kingdom and will experience rest on all sides as the wall of fire around the kingdom is your protection and defense. Zechariah 2:5, Hebrews 12:29 Now we see why we are instructed to diligently enter into this rest.

God’s spirit of righteous love is being poured out. Isaiah 44:3 If you have oil in your lamp, the spirit of truth in your soul, then you will embrace this voice of your Good Shepherd leading you into the green pastures and still waters (rest). Matthew 25:8-13

A Warning

I’ve talked about “fake” love in a recent video. The righteous love of God has never been poured out like it is now. In the void, people have entertained copycats of His love believing it to be His love. Matthew 7:22-23 It’s been forced and contrived. It’s a love that deceives one into thinking they have God’s love, when they don’t. Embracing a fake love is a blockade to engaging the true living God. God is real. Nothing about Him is fake. God abhors hypocrisy. It’s of the devil not God. Yet people have proclaimed His love when they haven’t experienced it. We give what we are. The Pharisees thought they knew God. They created an image of God, fake righteous love, that kept them from seeing pure love, even as He stood right in front of them. Make not the same mistake. When you have the love of God, nothing is the same in your life. 2 Corinthians 5:17 For those who have hoped and hungered for this love knowing their love is corrupted, now is the time for that hope to be fulfilled.

Our beliefs are going to fully manifest themselves. This is the judgment to come upon the world. 1 Corinthians 3:13 If we’ve been cultivating belief in the ways of this world, like religion and mankind’s wisdom, and letting these shape our beliefs instead of God, then the ramifications of those beliefs will be manifesting as the death that they are. If we’ve been cultivating belief in the true God, then we will heed His voice that leads to eternal life.

Have Ears to Hear

God is speaking to you. Listen. Listen to His voice guiding you. As you step out and follow in faith, you’ll learn to discern it more clearly. In time, you’ll want to give up all that is of the self-will and desire to be completely governed by Him, for He is the righteous love we desire. As you do, you will enter deeper into His rest. The Bible serves as a witness to confirm truth as you listen. Seek to trust in His voice above all others. As you trust in Him, all fear will flee for perfect love drives out fear.

We reap what we sow. Sow truth and righteous love by following the Good Shepherd’s voice; and you will grow in rest thus the power of God despite growing unrest around you.

Author: Rachel

My passion is cultivating a deep relationship with God and helping others to do the same. I LOVE sharing with others insights that God has taught me and hearing what God has taught them... thus my blog, Stirring the Deep. My focus is on a relationship, not a religion. Life is in the relationship. I believe in a balance and unity of body, mind and spirit. I feel it's important to nurture all three for they all affect each other. I try to live in the present, where the Holy Spirit is. And I try to do all with the motive of love. I've come to believe life is a journey and not a destination. It isn't about perfection, is it about growth.

53 thoughts on “Mount Zion is Awaiting You

  1. Rachel, I was just
    reading 1 Corin 15:45
    several days ago. Do you
    have a particular understanding
    of ‘living being’ from your studies?
    (a specified understanding)
    one say, possibly showing a difference
    between soul, and spirit where this
    definition would be applied?
    What is the nature of ‘living being’,
    would be another way to ask the
    question.
    I know your definitions sometimes
    differ from those of others.

    • Hi … 1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

      The first Adam was a living being in that He was created in such a way that he could intimately commune with God .. and had eternal life as he walked in God’s ways. However, he didn’t have the fullness of God’s spirit in him, thus went his own way. The last Adam, one filled with the spirit of God, Immanuel, had the spirit of God in Him and therefore could not walk outside of God’s will because He was a part of God … as God is a life-giving spirit, so is this Adam.

      The difference is having the fullness of God verses being a creation and walking along side God. From God being on the outside, to the inside.

      • “he didn’t have the fullness of
        God’s spirit in him”
        question, was he spirit, or soul?
        (I know the traditional answer)
        but think about it.
        how do you see that?
        He breathed in him the spirit of
        life, but sometimes spirit is used
        interchangeabley with soul in the O.T.

  2. Anonymous,..its a good question,..always worth a ponder
    my understanding of it would be this,
    i am made to two separate parts,my flesh and bone and blood being one,. my soul/spirit being the other.
    one CANNOT function without the other,..my body cannot live and exist without my soul in it,..my soul cannot live without having my body to live in.

    God Almighty is The Spirit God of all spirits,..as it is, Written,then, so it is.

    Just as its also Written, God is A Spirit His Worshippers MUST Worship Him in spirit and Truth

    from Bible Study and understanding my spirit/soul cannot live without the Spirit of Life in it,.(a small portion of The Holy Spirit),so to spilt hairs,..im flesh/bone/blood/ and spirit/soul + His Spirit of Life

    Its almost Written, that He can divide spirit and soul!,..of this, i take the understanding,not only! that He can know every single inner part of me,at my death my flesh and bone go to the grave / my soul (CEASES /SLEEPS/DOSENT KNOW ANYTHING) call it what you like,..BUT
    because His Spirit is in my soul/spirit it goes back to Him until my resurrection and judgement,..and more important of it all,this gives me understanding as its Written,..not to fear those who can kill the body,..BUT …HIM.. that can kill the soul/spirit,..because if He removes His Spirit from my soul/spirit it will cease to exist at all.

  3. Good discourse Brian.
    Really nice and plain.
    Your soul though is eternal,
    made in the image of Christ Jesus,
    because he prayed Father make
    them one with, me, and one with us.
    Show them that you love them as you
    love me. The Father never sleeps,
    so neither would you. That which sleeps
    is the death of your flesh. As Jesus
    spoke of Lazarus, when he said, he
    sleeps, but I go to raise him from sleep.
    However, Paul said, I show you a
    mystery, we shall not all sleep.
    But we will be changed.
    Paul also said, flesh and blood cannot
    inherit the kingdom of heaven.
    That’s a really interesting one right there,
    Ok, I’m thinking that maybe our flesh
    will never be involved in resurrection,
    but we will inherit the flesh of Christ,
    because Christ flesh came from the
    Father, through the blood of the Father.
    The second Adam.
    I know you don’t agree with all that,
    but pretty fascinating. eh?
    (Frosty Snowman)

  4. Anonymous,..its certainly fascinating,
    though i must be clear on my Faith totality based in Scripture regarding my belief.and to be clear,i DO NOT in anyway subscribe to the belief that at death your spirit goes straight to Heaven in an ‘Alive’ full knowledge state!
    and thats once we die, all knowing stops….body and soul cease,

    until The Messiah Returns in The Flesh(as Written) to this World, to Set His Fathers Kingdom up Here,and be King,on Earth, Forever….
    Then He will raise the dead,..rejoining body and soul together,the judgement

    but i believe it will be both flesh and spirit once again in the Kingdom here on Earth,.

    i believe as its Written all men must die,that includes me.

    i have a few thoughts on this,..they are my own,as to why we all must die.

    i believe Cain was the serpents son,and that he, satan, copulated with Eve!

    if you understand the nature of DNA,..once a man impregnates a woman,she takes on his DNA,.and so that is why our flesh is so sinful as it has the tiniest bit of the serpents seed/DNA,as its been passed down to us all,and continued via the ‘tares’, and we must die so all trace of satan can be removed from us,(this is just my own thoughts),.
    and,.satan is referred to as ‘death’,…and it starts in the garden of Eden with him,..and as its Written in Revelation,ends with him, in when satan is loosed from the pit and death is the last thing overcome

    as far as i can see only 3 people have ascended to Heaven,Enoch,Eliyah,..and of course Immanuel,..the big difference in Immanuel,is,.He is the ONLY One that has ‘died’ has Risen to Life and Ascended to Heaven,..no one else,..(Moses ?)..He was at the Transfiguration,(in body or spirit form?)..but as i tell everyone these days,..learn there is some very select and some very different groups of people,..The Patriarch fathers,The Prophets,..The obedient kings of Israel….the disciples,.the beheaded one,the elect,the bride,the 144,000,…….and the big groups,the lost sheep Tribes,the gentiles, the ones from Tribulation

    from Abraham to David there are quite a few Verses relating to ‘sleep’,..

    David while alive, was told he would ‘sleep with the fathers’ in the dust till the time of Kingdom ,
    Samuel the Prophet was ‘awakened’ in spirit from his sleep in death, by the witch at Endor for Saul!

    as for the change in the’ twinkling of an eye’…id say the Scripture that says,..’not all will taste death’ might be this group of people,..in fact as far as my understanding would be, it might just be those very select group that live,..or Blessed to live to the end,of the 1335 days!

  5. The problem with your
    conclusion lies here.
    When God gave Man
    The Law, he bound Satan
    in a snare of legalism.
    Blocking his free reign,
    and creating a board of
    Chinese Checkers for man
    to play on.
    Then He released man,
    from law, through Christ,
    and tightened the snare
    of legalism on Satan.
    Don’t ever try to beat God
    at his own game!
    Love, Frosty.

  6. i havent reach a conclusion,…and im certainly not playing The Father Almighty at any game,..im just working out my Salvation with fear and trembling,..the fear of eternal death of my soul keeps me on my toes as i run the race!

  7. 1 Cor 15:56 The sting of death
    [is] sin, and the strength of sin
    [is] the law.

  8. 2 Cor 3,..especially v 16 and 17,

    The Law is still the same,..just Written on Different Tablets,..

    do you not know His Words and Commands, whether in the OT or the NW will last longer than the sun?

  9. New wine must be put
    in new bottles.

    Luke 16:16 “The law and the
    prophets [were] until John.
    Since that time the kingdom of
    God has been preached, and
    everyone is pressing into it.

  10. Luke 16 v 17And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

    and Luke 16, ..v 15..And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

    The Law wont change ever,…when we have NEW hearts and New spirits,..The Law will still be The same,.The Voice at Horeb will be The Same,..The Messiah will be The Same…..only thing that will be different,..is He Will Be With Us,.here on earth

    • Do you believe that the
      new Testament, is God’s Holy
      Word, including the epistles?

      • take away the lies put there by the pen of the lying scribes,….All Scripture starts to make sense when studied with The Only Teacher,..

        do you believe The Old Testament?

      • The old testament is a shadow.
        The new Testament is telling us,
        that if you try to keep the law,
        Christ will profit you nothing.

  11. Jesus just spoke saying in
    Luke 16:16,
    The Law and the Prophets,
    prophecied until John.
    That’s not my word.

  12. if you dont study the Old Testament with the New,and especially with The Teacher,you will never find the precepts you need to build with,so your house dont fall down!

    thats my words of wisdom to you

  13. Romans 7:25
    I thank The Father through Immanuel our Messiah. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

    Hebrews 8:10
    For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

    Hebrews 10:16
    This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

    Hosea 4:6
    My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

    and
    Isaiah 51

    1Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto THE ROCK whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.

    2Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.

    3For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

    4Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a LAW shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.

    5My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.

    6Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

    7Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my LAW, fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.

    and here is Wisdom long Written Down,..and is for the Future

    28 Yet a small number that escape the sword shall return out of the land of Egypt into the land of Judah, and all the remnant of Judah, that are gone into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, shall know whose words shall stand, MINE, or their’s.

  14. Thanks Brian, it’s very
    important to have the word
    as our marker.
    These are good scriptures.
    However my question to you is this?
    Are you saying that you are trusting
    the Law of God for your salvation?

    • Im not sure if you are getting hung up or mixed up on the laws or The Law,…The Law is The Commandments,.The Messiah Gave them in The Old Testament,they are to Stand FOREVER.,..The Rock of Israel is my salvation

      James 4
      11Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

      12There is One Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

      Psalm 119

      150They draw nigh that follow after mischief: they are far from thy law.

      151Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth.

      152Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever.

      153Consider mine affliction, and deliver me: for I do not forget thy law.

      154Plead my cause, and deliver me: quicken me according to thy word.

      155Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

      156Great are thy tender mercies, O LORD: quicken me according to thy judgements.

      157Many are my persecutors and mine enemies; yet do I not decline from thy testimonies.

      158I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved; because they kept not thy word.

      159Consider how I love thy precepts: quicken me, O LORD, according to thy loving kindness.

      160Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

      • That was the question I was
        asking, you.
        Is what are you requiring of yourself
        in law, or the Law as far as your salvation?

      • The Rock of Israel is my Salvation,
        but notice the capital R.
        The precepts of The Law, have been
        transferred, from rock,
        to The Rock, which is a person, in
        your heart.
        It’s not The Law of Israel is my Salvation.
        It.s The Rock, (which is freedom from fear)
        of Israel is my Salvation.
        In the Old Testament, they did not have the
        Spirit of Christ in their heart, so they could
        not do this in freedom.
        They had to keep the Law through the Flesh.
        Which is fear.
        Now you are free to confirm the Law by your
        actions, but the Blood of Christ has set you
        free from the Condemnation of the Law.
        The Law was given to show the sinfulness of man
        and to be a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ.
        I think your well schooled Brian, so free yourself
        and walk in freedom.
        Christ kept the Law for you,
        now all you have to do is walk behind him,
        because he’s already done all the work.
        Not one of your efforts will ever be able to
        add to what He’s done for you.

  15. Romans 3:28 below
    is an example of what is
    meant by the the law of God
    in your heart. This is referring
    to, the law of Faith, not Works

    Romans 3:28
    28 Therefore we conclude
    that a man is justified by faith
    apart from the deeds of the law.

    • John 14:15
      If ye love me, keep my commandments.

      John 14:23
      Immanuel answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and My Father will love him, and We will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

      John 15:10
      If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.

  16. This is correct.
    Notice John 14:15
    If you love me, keep my commandmants.
    This is to be done out of love, not law,
    as in the O. Testament.

    You are keeping it out of love, Not law.

    If you keep my commandments, you abide in
    my love. If you are in fear, of death, that’s not love.
    Your not abiding in love.
    Love your neighbor, “As you love Yourself”

    The O. Testament, is a covenant of fear.
    Here, Christ is saying through love.
    No bondage.

    .

    • I think at least we can agree on that,…..Mind/Forehead/brain/spirit/heart

      Romans 7:25
      I thank The Father through Immanuel our Messiah. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

      As for The Rock of Israel,..that is Immanuel the Messiah.

      As for The Old Testament i’ll fully disagree,..its a Living Testament,.its a guide/a map…its food for along the narrow path,..its full of meat and unleavened bread,..im a slave to it,..for as Long as the Words in it Last!

  17. I am the Bread of Life.
    He that eateth of me
    shall never see death.
    Jesus Christ of Nazereth.

  18. if anyone keeps My word he will never see death.
    Immanuel the Messiah

    Anonymous, with respect we are going to have to rightly divide the Word,..of what was actually said in John 6 and your post!..and what was said about seeing death!

    John 6 :35 Immanuel said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst.

    John 8 :51 Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he will never see death.”

    Deut 8 ;3….”know that man doth not live by bread only, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.”

    Matthew 4:4
    4.But He answered and said, It is Written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    John 10:27
    My sheep hear My Voice, and I know them, and they follow Me:

    John 10:16

    And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear My Voice; and there shall be one fold, and One Shepherd.

    His Voice, His Word is right throughout the Old and New Testament,..Loving and True in both

  19. Well, I think somone told
    me, that when they died,
    they would cease to exist.
    But Jesus said,
    the exact opposite.

    • you shouldnt listen to any man,just exactly what Immanuel said,nor take away the Authority given to Him,to raise and judge the dead when He Returns As King of kings to This World

      24 Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.
      25 Immanuel said to her, “I am the Resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live EVEN if he dies,

      Ecclesiastes 9:5
      For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know NOT any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them
      is forgotten.

      its very clear,..when we die, we die,(we dont fail to exist) we rest in the dust with,just like the fathers,and king David,..to be raised again to life at the Resurrection,…
      after that, if you live ,and believe, you will never die!

      heres wisdom mister snowman,..you !..certainly dont want to pass through the ‘fire’…..but you have to watch out for the latter rain, too,..incase it washes you clean away

  20. Eccleciates 9:5
    This is poetic language used
    for death on earth.

    In this case you are doing exactly
    as you said, putting the Word of
    Solomon, over Immanuel.

    I think it’s obvious in the case
    of Martha, that he is referring
    to the death of Lazarus flesh.
    His spirit was still alive.
    He sleeps.
    Again, gross error on your part.

  21. with respect, i think its you thats misinterpreting Scripture for poetry,..and its obvious to me your confusing Martha’s and Solomons word,..against Immanuel,The Word,words

    heres some more poetic Scripture regarding death and when they will be raised to life or damnation,
    2 Samuel 7:12
    And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers,

    Job 14:11-13

    11 As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:

    12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

    13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!

    Revelation 20:5
    But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    ive used quite alot of Scripture in defense of my belief,..and theres alot too,….could you post some poetic or non poetic that would support yours?

  22. Well I would need to
    format anything I say on
    these that you have used with
    a bit of a prologue.
    Your making a severe error
    from my point of view, in your
    use of O.T. scripture.
    I’m not saying this to be
    disrespectful, but just let me
    put this on the table, because
    if not, it would cause irreparable
    confusion between us.
    The point is this.
    “All scripture in the O.T. can never
    be given the same weight.”
    Because, it is not all,
    Thus saith the Lord.
    You have to understand the
    context of the language.
    Also, even when it is a
    Thus saith the Lord, you still
    have to determine the context,
    because some of it is confined
    to that generation, and some of
    it, is to prophesy to the future.
    A lot of prophetic sayings are
    meant to explode in your heart
    and live and be revealed to your
    heart, and are not meant to be
    taken literally, or understood literally.*
    Some language is stated from the
    revealed level, of that generation,
    and they were on a lesser level
    of revelation, than we would be used
    to. Especially about, death, because
    the resurection of the dead was not
    understood until, Jesus came,
    by anyone including the disciples,
    so you are looking backwards in, or to
    the Old Testament.
    *An example would be Jesus Parables.
    They are said for you to ponder,
    until the comparison value hits your
    imagination.
    So, if you bounce from book to book
    without context and weight of
    language, your going to shipwreck.
    Without question.
    So, always come back to Jesus.
    As an example of this truth would
    be where Jesus said, “A greater than
    Solomon is here.” Ok. why do you
    need a greater than Solomon, if
    Solomon is enough?
    Just go back to Solomon and
    get it.
    Can you agree with me here?

  23. No i absolutely disagree with you,..I Worship The God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob,..why wouldnt i want to eat the bread and drink the flowing brook that is found in The Old Testament?
    The Rock of Israel is The Messiah,..The Rock of Israel lead The Israelites through the Red Sea and was with them 40 years in the Wilderness,..with them!

    As for Solomons Wisdom,..who do you think he got that Wisdom From?

    Moses, Joshua, Solomon,Jeremiah, Daniel….all Had the Spirit of Wisdom put in them

    your comment “So, if you bounce from book to book without context and weight of language, your going to shipwreck.Without question.

    I’ll say this to you,..im not sailing,..im building……im building on The Rock of Israel,..to do this im given every single Book and page of Scripture to search ..to seek… to find

    do you not know what Isaiah 28:10..means
    For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:????

    and for those building…
    Proverbs 24:3
    Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established

    Proverbs 23:9
    Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

    Proverbs 23:23
    Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding…..(10 virgins and a mark in the forehead comes to mind)

    if you have have the answer to this question,my favourite question,let me know!
    Proverbs 30 3-4
    3 I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.

    4Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is HIS NAME, and what is His Son’s Name, if thou canst tell?

    heres wisdom from me,..it not in either Testament!

    as for, “Especially about, death, because the resurection of the dead was not understood until, Immanuel came,”

    Abraham…Job..David all understood it,…

    id say to this day 2000 years later it still isnt understood by most,..why?…because they dont search for the answers,.with The Teacher,and the Spirit of Wisdom,..and the whole of Their Book

    • Who am I becoming? I like how this qutesion is phrased. Over the past couple of years i believe God has wanted me to BE more than to just DO . I can do the right things without really being the right kind of person in God’s eyes. The qutesion of Who am I becoming? puts a future to my BE . This may not be making much sense but I want to become who God means for me to be! I do not want to become someone who just does alot of good things.Thanks for keeping me on my toes and challenging my walk with God!

  24. You said you would never
    play Chinese Checkers with
    the Almighty Father
    but you did. Remember to
    play as your Father has taught you.
    And always follow the footsteps
    of Immanuel as they wind
    through the snow.
    Love, Frosty.

  25. My Father has taught me to build upon The Rock,..the path to getting there is like the path in Job 28, v 7 ‘There is a path which no fowl knoweth, and which the vulture’s eye hath not seen’!,…playing it is a bit like a sheep being lost and the only way back is to listen to The Shepherds Voice,you do a lot of criss crossin,..guess its a bit like your chinese checkers!

    btw,..Who do you think gave the Wisdom to anyone to think of Chinese Checkers?

    hers another valuable piece of poetic Wisdom

    Song of Solomon 2:11
    For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone,

    im sure we both could agree that would mean all traces of footsteps,…and of snowmen too?

    • Brian, here is the
      answer to your question.
      This is a description and
      full story of what is happening
      in the incident with Lazarus.
      Full Story of what is happening
      here that will show you the truth.
      Forget the Old Testament.
      They didn’t know what they were
      talking about.
      I’m going to prove it to you, stay
      with me in the story.
      Story Begins.
      In Jesus day, there were two schools
      of thought (two beliefs) about what
      happened to you when you die.
      Because no one knew.
      The Saduccees and Pharisees,
      two leading groups of Bible Scholars
      each had a different interpretation
      about it, because, they were doing
      the same thing you are trying to do,
      which is to get it from the Biblical
      Record, i.e. the O.T.
      Ok. They did not agree on what
      that O.T. Record was saying,
      because, they were trying to do
      the same thing you are doing, which
      is pull scriptures out of Job, etc.
      (which is a literary story), not, a
      prophetic word like Psalms, and
      Proverbs, and Isaiah, are.
      So, they got lost like you did.
      As I said, you will shipwreck.
      One group of Rabbis’ held the view
      that there was ‘no life after death’.
      Which is what you pulled from a
      character in a ‘story’ (Job),
      who is not a Prophet of God,
      but a Complainer, in a story.
      Same thing that these Rabbis did.
      (even though the story is real)
      (he is not a man of God).
      The other group of Rabbis,
      believed that, you will rise from
      the dead at the Resurrection
      This is the other part of your
      belief.
      So, you are operating on a combintion
      of both theories, pulling from the
      same erroneous material in the O.T.
      about death. Not saying the O.T.
      isn’t the word God, but some of it
      is story. In other words the characters
      in the story of Job, they held the same
      erroneous ideas about death, that
      everyone else of their day did.
      And that’s what there voicing in Job.
      It’s not the voice of God, it’s the ideas,
      and cherished beliefs of those characters.
      Ok. Martha held one of those cherised
      beliefs, of the two belief systems that she
      learned from the Rabbis, in those days.
      Here below is what she says,

      24 Martha said to Him,
      “I know that he will rise
      again IN THE RESURRECTION
      ON THE LAST DAY.
      That’s what she learned from
      one group of these Rabbi’s.
      The experts on reading the Bible,
      in their day. And that is your
      erroneous belief as well.

      Ok. the story continues and
      Jesus says, NO, NO, NO<
      NO, a Thousand times NO!
      He, says, YOUR BOTH WRONG.
      BOTH GROUPS OF YOU.
      FORGET WHAT YOU THINK
      AND LISTEN TO ME.
      25
      I Am The Resurrection
      TODAY, I AM THE RESURRECTION
      NOW, NOT IN THE FUTURE.
      NOW.
      He continues.
      He who believes, in Me
      WILL BE ALIVE NOW,
      HIS SPIRIT WILL BE ALIVE
      NOW, NOW, NOW
      NOT IN THE FUTURE,
      HIS RESURRECTION IS NOW,
      BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN ME,
      IS ONE WITH ME, AND I AM
      THE RESURRECTION.
      even if he dies
      (IN THE FLESH)
      as Lazarus, had just done.

      • i dunno were to start to reply to you to that post,…i tempted to say,..’follow snow man’

        seriously though,..if we are going to seriously debate,..post the Written Word,..not a poor description of the ‘full story’ and adding words to suit your interpretation of it!….and i’ll totally disagree with your,as id see it, a serious misunderstanding about the ‘Job Story’ i tempted to say we are all lil jobs

        i mean,surely even you can see the same thing is being said in

        Job 14,.”man born of woman is of few days”

        and

        James 4:14..For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

        or you going to say its a literary story too,..and not the Word of God?

        John 11
        24 Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.
        25 Immanuel said to her, “I am the Resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live EVEN if he dies,

        (your adding, a lot of no’s and inserting now’s (which friend,we are warned not to do!)…plus you make assumptions about what Martha thought and her beliefs!!!!
        I mean do you think this was the first time Martha had talked to The Messiah,..Scripture itself proves that The Messiah had been and talked and taught in their house,..He LOVED them!,..its Written….He wept!

        and i’ll ask you this question,..?

        Lazarus was dead for 4 days,..4 DAYS,. before he was brought out of the tomb..where was he? ..where had he been?

        As for the Old Testament,..do you not realise Immanuel The Messiah used it?..to Quote from and refer to,…..knowing full well no one or nothing can stand against it?

        do you not realise,..Immanuel is the One in The Old Testament,..He ate and drank with Abraham,..talked face to face with Isaac and Jacob,..with Moses face to face many times,..and with King David,….he understood full well his death!

        No wonder its Written

        Luke 16

        30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

        31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

        (ponder over that and what it means)

        and

        what do you not understand what is Written in Revelation 20 ;5,…and i mean,..lived NOT again

        5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

        i follow and talk about the True Gospel,..its this

        The Kingdom is Coming,. TO THIS EARTH,(not Heaven)Where The Son of The Almighty Father,Will Be King FOREVER,..AND…He Shall Raise The Dead.

        and also,..He Shall Rule it With The Law,….The Same Law,Long Written Down!

        So Be It.

        read it,..and Rejoice

  26. 25 Immanuel said to her,
    “I am the Resurrection and
    the life; he who believes in
    Me will live EVEN if he dies,

    Dying is your flesh Bryan.
    Your spirit is eternal
    He who believes in me
    his spirit will live,
    even if his flesh dies.
    This is the whole message of Jesus Christ.
    It’s what the gospel is. That’s the message.

    This is what Jesus is explaining.
    He created man in his image.
    Man is an eternal spirit, made in God’s image.
    As to the four days.
    This is Paradise, or Abraham’s bosom.
    People disagreed with Paul all the time
    with his beliefs, but he didn’t quit
    preaching the truth.
    He said, let God be true and every man
    a liar.
    Please remember that Jesus discussed
    scripture with people all the time without
    offense. It’s not an offense to discuss
    the word.
    In addition, I’m not telling you what to
    believe, you have to make that choice.
    And just to remind you, you were the
    one who ask me for examples.
    I was replying to your request.
    If I am explaining scripture, where there
    is a difference between us, I am
    responsible to the Lord for my
    answer. So I am staying true to him.
    Otherwise I’d make myself a liar.
    Your free to judge what I say,
    just don’t judge me for saying, it.
    Otherwise your implying that your
    always correct.
    Please learn to discuss without offense.
    30And he said, Nay, father Abraham:
    but if one went unto them from the dead,
    they will repent.
    (you just proved here that a man’s spirit
    is alive after death.)
    Proverbs 20:10
    Two things the Lord hates
    are dishonest (incorrect)
    scales and dishonest
    (inaccurate) measures.
    Proverbs 25:2
    [It is] the glory of God to conceal
    a thing: but the honor of kings is
    to search out
    a matter.
    Two scriptures from the O.T.

    • oh dont worry a thing about me,..im not the easy offended type,..let The Truth of Scripture prove itself True

      30And he said, Nay, father Abraham:
      but if one went unto them from the dead,
      they will repent.
      (you just proved here that a man’s spirit
      is alive after death.)

      WHAT?,..it proves nothing of the sort,..the beggar and the rich man is a Parable,..i think you need to,..in your words “to ponder,
      until the comparison value hits your imagination.”

      read the Parable,..the whole of it,..the ‘purple’ should give you a good clue to who He is referring too,…

      …the ‘water’ im sure you’ll know, is always,The Truth,

      and the Lazarus in this Parable is not the same Lazarus,He raised from the dead,…and to add,..Immanuel didnt raise Him to Immortal Life? did he,….in that case he’d be still alive!

      your logic on death is just the same as pagans and other afterlife existent false religions,..its as if death is better than life,..its mans foolish teaching,..its not what The Bible Teaches,..and The Gospel is The Kingdom First ,..THEN the Resurrection,.. and correct me if im wrong, But The Messiah hasnt Returned yet? to Set That Kingdom up,..we are still or should be still praying for it to Come!

      Ecc 9

      4For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

      how can it be,..if your in the afterlife ????

      and to me this is future Scripture below,

      Hebrews 9

      27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the JUDGEMENT!

      28 So The Messiah was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the SECOND time without sin unto salvation.

      i mean do you accept that this is yet a future time,?

      1 Cor 15

      51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

      52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

      53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

      54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is Written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

      This is the Glorious Resurrection.

      to some up your logic,..theres no such thing as death!

      but im afraid,..id say to you,…and though said poetically,..the dead cannot Worship God,..hence therefore

      Mark 12
      27He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

      if there is no conception of death,..then you go against Scripture,..cause according to my Bible,..its the last Thing the Father puts Under His Son, Our Messiahs feet

      • How could you have a
        parable, about a scenario
        that would not be relatable
        to anything in reality?
        Never heard of a parable
        of that nature. At least as far as
        the Lord is concerned.
        Not his type of language.
        However, the point that leads us
        to a different conclusion, if you
        (forgive me for the term) is simply
        the word death.
        When you are using the word death,
        from the O.T. this is a reference to
        physical death, in most cases.
        However I know your mind is made up
        on the subject. I give you 100 points for
        a strong back-bone.
        I can only try to open your eyes
        to things you may have never thought
        of before. That’s the best I can do.
        You have covered the scripture well
        from your point of view.
        I will leave you with a scripture to
        ponder. It’s the best I can do because
        of our differences.
        1 John 3:14 We know that
        we have passed from death
        to life, because we love the
        brethren. He who does not
        love [his] brother abides in death.

  27. I think you left part of
    the word out.

    22 “So it was that the
    beggar died, and was
    carried by the angels to
    Abraham’s bosom. The rich
    man also died and was buried.
    23 “And being in torments in
    Hades,he lifted up his eyes
    and saw Abraham
    afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

  28. well then dont make the same mistake read it all,..realise its a parable about a future time,..and dont put in the Lazarus brother of Mary and Martha as the one and the same Lazarus the poor man!

    maybe this Lazarus in this Parable, is someone else that was raised from the dead!,..and as i said in my other post,.the ‘purple’ should let you know who the rich man is referring to!

    • Wasn’t suggesting it
      was the same Lazarus.
      You asked where a man
      goes.

      • well again id have to disagree as to whether its a Parable or not!

        if its not a Parable or His words,..who’s are they?

        its very easy for me to see it is a Parable spoke by Him,..with a very prophetic end-time message!

        Matthew 13:13

        Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

        Matthew 13:34
        All these things Immanuel spoke to the crowds in parables, and He did not speak to them without a parable.

        and ponder Luke 16 : 29-31…and John 5 :46-47,..see if your eyes can see anything similar!

        Luke 16

        29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

        30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

        31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

        John 5:46,47
        “If you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

        as for my eyes,they have been opened,by The Spirit of Truth,…and HE, leads me out of the lies of the mainstream christian churches,..that will only lead to one place!

        …i’ll leave you with this,..another future prophetic/non poetic Scripture long Written Down

        Isaiah 26

        19 Israel, those among you who have died will live again.
        Their bodies will rise from the dead.
        You who lie in the grave,
        wake up and shout with joy.
        The dew of the morning gives life to the earth.
        So the earth will give up its dead people.

  29. A Parable is a parallelism.
    If the incident of story doesn’t
    indicate an actual comparison
    of nature, it’s not a parable.

    (Again from the O.T.)
    Proverbs 20:10
    Two things the Lord hates
    are dishonest (incorrect)
    scales and dishonest
    (inaccurate) measures.

  30. i totally and absolutely disagree with you,its a Parable about a very important endtime event,..just like each and everyone of the other fabulous Parables, Immanuel Our Messiah,Spoke!

    and gave us eyes to see and ears to hear with, and The Wonderful Comforter to Discern with!

    (Again from the NT)….(and take special note:He didnt speak to them without it being in a Parable!)…and heed the warning given about adding and taking away even the littlest word from His!…He really hates that!

    Matthew 13:34
    All these things Immanuel spoke to the crowds in parables, and He did not
    speak to them WITHOUT a Parable.

  31. Matthew 12:33
    Either make the tree good
    and his fruit good, or else
    make the tree bad and its
    fruit bad; for a tree is known
    by his fruit.

  32. indeed,
    29 Then He told them a parable: “Behold the fig tree and all the trees;
    30 as soon as they put forth leaves, you see it and know for yourselves that summer is now near.
    31 So you also, when you see these things happening, recognize that the kingdom of God is near.

    Ezekiel 36: 8

    8,.But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come.

    yes we will know each other by our love for The Truth,..and all that comes from that,…and also,telling of the Kingdom Coming to this earth,..where
    Immanuel will be King, Forever,..and He Will Raise the dead!

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