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Beware of Traditions of Men

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Beware of Traditions of Men

Mark 7:9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.”

 

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Author: Rachel

My passion is cultivating a deep relationship with God and helping others to do the same. I LOVE sharing with others insights that God has taught me and hearing what God has taught them... thus my blog, Stirring the Deep. My focus is on a relationship, not a religion. Life is in the relationship. I believe in a balance and unity of body, mind and spirit. I feel it's important to nurture all three for they all affect each other. I try to live in the present, where the Holy Spirit is. And I try to do all with the motive of love. I've come to believe life is a journey and not a destination. It isn't about perfection, is it about growth.

20 thoughts on “Beware of Traditions of Men

  1. Thank you, Rachel. Praying that we can understand what you are teaching and seek Him . .. now. God bless you as you stir us for Him.

    • Hi Debbie – in all things it is the Holy Spirit that teaches us truth, we can hear truth from others, but until God writes it on our hearts we don’t grasp it. I pray this is one truth that many are able to “hear.”

  2. Rachel, I want to stir a little deeper with you here,
    when he says, ‘but that same anointing teaches you
    all things.’;
    my way of hearing that would be
    ‘but that same anointing teaches you
    (or will identify) all things that are correct.’
    There are boat loads that I can learn from you
    Rachel, if you are a professional diver,
    (or even a more sensitive diver) and I
    am a native diver, diving without tanks.

    • Hi Glenn – no doubt we can learn concepts from one another, but it is God who writes the truth on our hearts so that we can live it and own it as our own. Make sense?

  3. I’m in complete agreement with you
    there, but I would like a better understanding
    of what it means to you, to have it written on
    your heart. (In Malachi you’ll read, in that day
    when I make up my jewels).
    If we see each other that way, you could
    see that we were specifically fashioned.
    I, would have to believe that you will have
    facets, that I wouldn’t. So you, would have
    to share it from your heart, with me,
    which is where God wrote it!
    If God’s spirit is in You, then he can
    ‘write it’, right from your spirit, into mine.
    Assuming we’re both in the Holy Spirit,
    through Jesus Christ.
    (give me your thoughts)

    • Hi Glenn — I see what you are saying, but again … Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren … there is a significant difference between the two, the instruction of others and the instruction of God. It isn’t one or the other, they play different roles and God is first and above all.

      • Thank you, Rachel. I appreciate and respect
        your reading of the word here, helped me
        understand your emphasis.
        One thing, I would, like to clarify.
        In my statements, I am not really suggesting
        that we would be each other’s teacher.
        The realm I am referring to is an emphasis
        on the brother part of Jesus statement.
        If I learn from you about God, Rachel,
        I’m not making you my teacher,
        any more than I am making you my Sister.
        With the amount of God that’s in you, Rachel,
        you could move your hand, and I would perceive God.
        I think I’m referring to spiritual awareness.
        Just being alive in God. I’m going to perceive
        God in you, either, or. (hidden messages in water)

      • Hi Glenn – seems we are thinking along the sames lines 🙂

  4. It is very easy to listen to others say how something is Biblical, but, as you ask, do I truly seek the Truth? Am I dedicating daily time where I can read, pray and reflect?

    As the holiday season arrives, I hope to answer “yes” to those questions despite the additional time constraints.

    • Hi Slamdunk – great point … it is easy to give our spiritual development, thus relationship with God, into the hands of another because tradition strongly encourages this on what it does and not necessary says, but no one can cultivate our relationship for us. And if we aren’t individually seeking and learning to listen to the Holy Spirit and what truth is -how can we discern what we are hearing? The cornerstone of faith in God, is faith in God, not man.

  5. Hi Rachel … It’s certainly true that God raises up leaders to preach & teach but the problem is most people think that’s all there is, when that’s not all there is and God never meant it to be all there is. That’s the message the leaders should be imparting to their people.

    The other thing is; men leaders need to teach men how to be godly men and women leaders need to teach the women how to be godly women, so as both can stand healthy in their identity, one not being threatened by the other. Great message.

    • Hi Roger – thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Ohers can certainly point us in the right direction, encourage, reframe, support, confirm … but no one can replace God as our primary Teacher … Matthew 23:8 But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren … when He teaches us it is like no other. There is a huge difference. It isn’t one or the other … we the brethern and God play different roles. Yet our prevailing traditions, humans have been put in the place/role that God should have in people’s hearts and minds, thus why so many lead astray. Few really trust God to teach them, thus who truly holds the authority in their lives?

  6. Hey Rachel
    I was a big proponent of listening and following leaders. If certain popular christian leaders had a new sermon or book, I wanted to listen to it or read the book. Until one day when I got a chance to meet John MacArthur here in Nashville, I walked in and the place was already packed, signs indicating seats were saved. Some people must have already been there an hour already. It was a great sermon he preached, then after I got to stand in line to meet him. I was very reluctant in doing so, because I felt uncomfortable, but after much pushing by a friend I stood in line and watched people paw at him like he was Tom Cruise. It was weird. He even was singing his name in peoples bible. So after meeting him, he seemed very humble and surely uncomfortable having people paw after him. I realized he was just a man, yet has done a lot for the kingdom of God. But just a man. After that I had a new sense about preachers and teachers. I think we can learn from them, but spending so much time listening and gathering information they teach takes so much away from our own study. Eventually we will hold to there doctrines they teach and we will not learn for ourselves. I can tell you what I believe now is not the same as I used to or atleast I can say now, I question doctrines now that I wouldn’t before because my thought was, “I can this be wrong if they (your popular teacher) believes this to be correct.”

    blessings
    Mike

    • Hi Mike – Glad you shared this … not speaking specifically of just John MacArthur, but this concept in general … we should never treat another human the way you described, such lofty and stilted praise and adoration. It isn’t good for them or us. I pray these leaders to put an end to receiving such treatment; the people have given them power – may they use that power to de-power themselves and let all power be about God. Paul spoke about about this …

      2 Corinthians 2:1-5 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 5That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

  7. Rachel, when you have time,
    please share with me what you mean by
    the concept, in saying
    ‘God writes on your heart.’
    Some ministers use this term when they,
    describe how circumstances or events,
    effect us, but I know that is not how you
    are using the term.

  8. Love becomes our love
    to know and to give
    when His truth is yours,
    like God’s love our truth
    becomes our love when
    God’s love is yours.

  9. Luke 8:16 No man, when he hath lighted a candle,
    covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed
    but setteth it on a candlestick, that they that enter
    in, may see the light.

    Luke 8:18 Take heed therefore, how ye hear,
    for whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and
    whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken,
    even that which he seemeth to have.

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