Part 2 of 4: Image Set up by Humankind
Now if you are ready at the time you hear the sound of the horn, flute, harp, lyre, and psaltery, in symphony with all kinds of music, and you fall down and worship the image which I have made, good! But if you do not worship, you shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. And who is the god who will deliver you from my hands?”
He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
December 14, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Where you miss it Rachel, is you don’t understand the doctrine of who Jesus is.
These scriptures teach how to receive eternal life.
1 John 5:13 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life,
John 20:31 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
So, it is not a doctrine of death that you are misinterpreting alone, but rather your main error,
is also involved in misinterpreting the Word of who Jesus is.
Jesus said, if you have seen me you have seen the Father.
We have the doctrine that Christ bore of who He is, to bring clarity to the Old Testament verses.
Jesus called Judas the son of Perdition.
This is perdition by definition.
(in Christian theology) A state of eternal punishment and damnation into which a sinful and unpenitent person passes after death.
Another place where you are in error, is in assigning a doctrine, to a label, (of Satan) to those who are followers of Jesus, who have the Holy Spirit. Those who have the Holy Spirit in Truth will be able to judge when a doctrine is in error. I am a follower of Jesus, so I qualify to speak Truth.
The Holy Spirit does not bear witness to an image, but to the Word of the Lord Jesus Christ.
If you are placing your confidence in Him, you should be able to give the same right to those who walk with Him, without accusation.
What would really be the true lack of love, would be if I didn’t tell you the Truth.
You have instructed others to speak the Truth in Love.
So that’s what we need. Not an emotional judgement about what Love is.
If you let your children play on the Railroad Track, and don’t tell them the danger there, that’s not Love. That’s an emotional deception about love.
Again, your holding us to speaking Truth in the Holy Ghost, so you wouldn’t be
alone, in that desire. If your encouragement is to Truth, I’m not afraid to speak it.
We should speak the Word that God gave without fear of man,
and what man feels about it, or how it affects him emotionally.
Just to speak about truth, so it satisfies your emotions, is not
true Love, and it’s not True to Christ. That is simply emotional love.
And, it wouldn’t be Love to you, if I don’t say the Truth, that Word tells us.
December 15, 2012 at 11:18 am
“Where you miss it Rachel, is you don’t understand the doctrine of who Jesus is.”
You do not realize the Spirit of the Accuser in your words. Nor do you understand that you are judging a tree “bad” when you have no idea of the type of fruit the tree bears. This shines light on the fact that your words are not of wisdom/truth.
You desire a god that “eternally torments” a child who does not worship him. This is like saying you would be a Father that would continually torment a child born to you blind, or lame, or deaf. For this is how we are ALL born into this world – this is what it means to be born in sin. (Luke 7:22)
You desire a god of “fear” – rather than love. And yet are bold to proclaim that this is what a loving Father would do.
God is love. And love abounds in mercy that endures forever. When you understand the power of God’s love – you understand that NO wickedness can endure before it.
December 15, 2012 at 3:42 pm
The fruit you bear as a Christian, has nothing to do with the reality of
whether the Word of God says, there is eternal judgement.
The Love of God, is given to all, but salvation is given to those who believe in Jesus Christ for forgiveness.
The discussion has nothing to do with my personal preferences.
It is based on the Word of God, not your image of Love.
December 15, 2012 at 7:54 pm
When you are in hell, there is no love of God there.
There is no love of God there, to endure before you,
because God is not in Hell.
You are seperated from his prescence forever, and
you are in the presence of Satan, in his kingdom
because you rejected God.
That is the portion and judgement for sin without Christ.
If you are in Christ, ther is no fear, because you have
passed from death to life, and will be joined to God’s love
December 15, 2012 at 11:27 am
Hi Rachel, EW here! I see some truth of God in your post. For, Jesus said, “you have a judge and that judge is the words I have spoken.” Therefore, when we speak the words of Jesus openly, it will bring convection on all who have any portion of a consceince. —As for the great image,(hearing any kind of musical instrament, all must bow down and worship), the first think coming into my mind is, on sunday the bells ringing, organs playing, church music over loud speakers and so-on and so-on, people rushing to a building of seclusion to follow the words of one standing on a platform above them saying, “God has called me to preach His truth to you.” Where, the Lord gave the scenario of Phillip chasing the charriot to say, “do you know what you are reading” and none of the rest that is in denomenational church. Some groups even say they are not in protest, which is true, for they all follow in the same format as the founder of man-church. —Each time God has brought wrath of chastisment on a people, He always has given a new covenant, but the people always try to back up to the covenant before the wrath: the temple was called, ” a house of prayer”. Jesus had already laid out the new covenant that would be after His death, but while draging the cross, He said, “weep for your selves for your house will be left unto you desolate”/or God will no longer communicate through this system. What else does the Lord tell you on this subject?
December 18, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Hi EW – organized religion is images .. that is what makes it a religion. It seeks to tell you who God is and what He wants of you … but that will always lead you astray. As long as you are listening to someone else talk about God you will have misconceptions of who He is .. just as if someone told you about an acquaintance, but when you see and meet them for yourself you truly know who they are and then the faulty perceptions you had of them are removed.
So with God we have to know Him for ourselves. We have to let Him teach us about Him and then we will know Him as we are suppose to.