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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lauren - thanks for stopping by and commenting. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren &#8211; thanks for stopping by and commenting. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lauren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading above comment. I think you are exactly right. 

And lol. Props to you for being open about your flaws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading above comment. I think you are exactly right. </p>
<p>And lol. Props to you for being open about your flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haha - thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha &#8211; thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: AGM</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AGM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I throw one but I&#039;ll do it in Christ. 8)) Dont worry I wont hit anything.


AGM (the stone thrower)lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I throw one but I&#8217;ll do it in Christ. 8)) Dont worry I wont hit anything.</p>
<p>AGM (the stone thrower)lol</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-755</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Victor - you raised a meaty issue -  about fostering a victim mentality that usurps responsibility.  We all will be accountable to our actions regardless of the foundational network that manifested them. This is our ability as humans - we have an element of choice in our decisions - we aren&#039;t limited to reactive behaviors. It is something that needs to be more reinforced in our society. But it won’t because it is easier to manipulate and take advantage of victims. It is easier to control others when they feel they don’t have any control themselves.

As for the sinner verses sin aspect – another meaty issue. The flesh side of me - the sinner, my self-will, my wicked nature is contrary to God. God hates the wicked. He hated Esau. Romans 9:13. It is our self-will acting out that has to be destroyed – which is destroyed in Christ.  I hate my flesh that is in rebellion in God but as a new creation I have the seed of God in my creating new life.  Those who haven’t been born again, lack this new life – so all they have is wickedness directed by their self-will – which we hate. But God desires that none should perish - there is a value in each one of us as God&#039;s creation. And we are to love our enemies. We can’t dismiss the sinner who is spiritually dead because we were all there at one point. And they could become God’s child. We don&#039;t know when or how God will work in their life and He may use our love to opent their eyes to Him. Perhaps this is what people mean when they say don’t hate the sinner but the sin. Not to dismiss them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor &#8211; you raised a meaty issue &#8211;  about fostering a victim mentality that usurps responsibility.  We all will be accountable to our actions regardless of the foundational network that manifested them. This is our ability as humans &#8211; we have an element of choice in our decisions &#8211; we aren&#8217;t limited to reactive behaviors. It is something that needs to be more reinforced in our society. But it won’t because it is easier to manipulate and take advantage of victims. It is easier to control others when they feel they don’t have any control themselves.</p>
<p>As for the sinner verses sin aspect – another meaty issue. The flesh side of me &#8211; the sinner, my self-will, my wicked nature is contrary to God. God hates the wicked. He hated Esau. Romans 9:13. It is our self-will acting out that has to be destroyed – which is destroyed in Christ.  I hate my flesh that is in rebellion in God but as a new creation I have the seed of God in my creating new life.  Those who haven’t been born again, lack this new life – so all they have is wickedness directed by their self-will – which we hate. But God desires that none should perish &#8211; there is a value in each one of us as God&#8217;s creation. And we are to love our enemies. We can’t dismiss the sinner who is spiritually dead because we were all there at one point. And they could become God’s child. We don&#8217;t know when or how God will work in their life and He may use our love to opent their eyes to Him. Perhaps this is what people mean when they say don’t hate the sinner but the sin. Not to dismiss them.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor S E Moubarak</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victor S E Moubarak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are correct in that we are all role models for someone else. Whatever we do - good or bad, whoever we are - parents, teachers, pastors or celebrities, there&#039;s always someone watching us and ready to emulate us.

My concern, as I see it around me, is that many use this as an excuse to do evil or to go wrong:

&quot;It&#039;s the circumstances of my up-bringing in a broken family and poor background that led me 
to ... &quot;

&quot;It&#039;s because of my lack of education that I ... &quot;

And so the excuses go trying to explain or condone wrongdoings rather than accept personal responsibilities.

They say &quot;Hate the sin but not the sinner&quot;.

I&#039;m not so sure about that. The sin, however evil and abhorent, has never hurt anyone. It requires a person to put it into action for it to do harm. 

God allows the sinner to sin - that&#039;s why He gave us free will to do so. Yet, at all times there are many roadsigns pointing to God&#039;s Word, and there are many people (like you) preaching God&#039;s Word.

Pity they&#039;re not listening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct in that we are all role models for someone else. Whatever we do &#8211; good or bad, whoever we are &#8211; parents, teachers, pastors or celebrities, there&#8217;s always someone watching us and ready to emulate us.</p>
<p>My concern, as I see it around me, is that many use this as an excuse to do evil or to go wrong:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s the circumstances of my up-bringing in a broken family and poor background that led me<br />
to &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s because of my lack of education that I &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>And so the excuses go trying to explain or condone wrongdoings rather than accept personal responsibilities.</p>
<p>They say &#8220;Hate the sin but not the sinner&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure about that. The sin, however evil and abhorent, has never hurt anyone. It requires a person to put it into action for it to do harm. </p>
<p>God allows the sinner to sin &#8211; that&#8217;s why He gave us free will to do so. Yet, at all times there are many roadsigns pointing to God&#8217;s Word, and there are many people (like you) preaching God&#8217;s Word.</p>
<p>Pity they&#8217;re not listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Swarbrick</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald Swarbrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[your welcome, i like reading your words, they can be helpful]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your welcome, i like reading your words, they can be helpful</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Lee, my prayers are with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Lee, my prayers are with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donald - how true your words are. Thanks for your comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donald &#8211; how true your words are. Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Swarbrick</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/12/snowballing-effects-of-the-sinful-nature/#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald Swarbrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.&quot;
We are all sinners down here, some worse than others, and we will all have to answer to God face to face someday,  whether we ask his forgiveness down here or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.&#8221;<br />
We are all sinners down here, some worse than others, and we will all have to answer to God face to face someday,  whether we ask his forgiveness down here or not.</p>
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