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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Eldon, we don&#039;t always know the specifics of people&#039;s actions ... but we know the whole world is under the sway of the wicked one .. so we know the ultimate source. And it reminds me that we battle not against flesh and blood, but the spiritual powers of darkness. May we remember who the battle is truly against and love the rest. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eldon, we don&#8217;t always know the specifics of people&#8217;s actions &#8230; but we know the whole world is under the sway of the wicked one .. so we know the ultimate source. And it reminds me that we battle not against flesh and blood, but the spiritual powers of darkness. May we remember who the battle is truly against and love the rest. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Rachel, through better than a half century of life, I have found that reguardless of the size silver spoon one has been born with, everyone can write a cry-in-your-beer-song about their life. This comment is not mint to down grade anyone because, I&#039;ve been there &amp; if I loose sight of the Lord, it will come back. ---A point that has helped me: remember when God convicted the Jews for enter-marrying &amp; having children with people around them. The Jews knew their life was wrong, &amp; chose to change into what was pleasing to God. If a person had any passion at all, would this not have been a gut-wrenching decision? Early on you said we have no freedom, we are bound in servitude either to satan or to Jesus. satan wants us to wallow in our miseries of life, where Jesus wants us to be at peace. ---The closer we get to the end, the more satan will try to pile-drive us into concrete. Remember I spoke of the high-dollar TV preacher that said,&quot;Yes, saturday is the Sabbath but, if we change back now it would disrupt the world!&quot; (one will rise with a THOUGHT to change God&#039;s times and law). In compareing the decision of the Jews to the decision of the gentiles, which would you think to be the hardest decision to make? We don&#039;t know what was the driving force that caused people to be cruel to us, we just know they were not following Jesus, It is for us to break the cycle!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rachel, through better than a half century of life, I have found that reguardless of the size silver spoon one has been born with, everyone can write a cry-in-your-beer-song about their life. This comment is not mint to down grade anyone because, I&#8217;ve been there &amp; if I loose sight of the Lord, it will come back. &#8212;A point that has helped me: remember when God convicted the Jews for enter-marrying &amp; having children with people around them. The Jews knew their life was wrong, &amp; chose to change into what was pleasing to God. If a person had any passion at all, would this not have been a gut-wrenching decision? Early on you said we have no freedom, we are bound in servitude either to satan or to Jesus. satan wants us to wallow in our miseries of life, where Jesus wants us to be at peace. &#8212;The closer we get to the end, the more satan will try to pile-drive us into concrete. Remember I spoke of the high-dollar TV preacher that said,&#8221;Yes, saturday is the Sabbath but, if we change back now it would disrupt the world!&#8221; (one will rise with a THOUGHT to change God&#8217;s times and law). In compareing the decision of the Jews to the decision of the gentiles, which would you think to be the hardest decision to make? We don&#8217;t know what was the driving force that caused people to be cruel to us, we just know they were not following Jesus, It is for us to break the cycle!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/06/healing-the-wounds-left-by-an-earthly-father/#comment-1623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jane - what we receive from our parents, good or bad, has such a tremendous impact in our lives. When it is lies or pain, I&#039;ve found the healing is definitely a process - God restores and heals a layer at a time because it is a very real and deep healing, and along the journey we learn the magnitude of His love, mercy and power at work in our lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane &#8211; what we receive from our parents, good or bad, has such a tremendous impact in our lives. When it is lies or pain, I&#8217;ve found the healing is definitely a process &#8211; God restores and heals a layer at a time because it is a very real and deep healing, and along the journey we learn the magnitude of His love, mercy and power at work in our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Haislip</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Haislip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful post on our &quot;earthly fathers&quot;. I was one who falls in that category. I have forgiven him and we have a close but distant relationship. I demonstrate love to him, but still feel very anxious when I am in his presence, which is not too often seeing now that I love in MN and he is still in Atlanta. I have been moving towards healing with God in this area my entire life, but yet have entered into the same type of relationships/the &quot;old brain&quot; kicking in thinking this is normal to me, this is how it&#039;s supposed to be. God is continuing to do His work of healing in me with the depression, anxiety and P.T.S.D. and grateful He is patient with me and this process. Thanks again. Jane]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post on our &#8220;earthly fathers&#8221;. I was one who falls in that category. I have forgiven him and we have a close but distant relationship. I demonstrate love to him, but still feel very anxious when I am in his presence, which is not too often seeing now that I love in MN and he is still in Atlanta. I have been moving towards healing with God in this area my entire life, but yet have entered into the same type of relationships/the &#8220;old brain&#8221; kicking in thinking this is normal to me, this is how it&#8217;s supposed to be. God is continuing to do His work of healing in me with the depression, anxiety and P.T.S.D. and grateful He is patient with me and this process. Thanks again. Jane</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/06/healing-the-wounds-left-by-an-earthly-father/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nathan, 

I am thankful for your words. It was incredibly helpful. And I totally agree. We have symptoms and excuse them for others things and miss out on the deep healing of God because we don&#039;t ask or seek. Thanks again for all your words ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, </p>
<p>I am thankful for your words. It was incredibly helpful. And I totally agree. We have symptoms and excuse them for others things and miss out on the deep healing of God because we don&#8217;t ask or seek. Thanks again for all your words <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rachel;

This time I&#039;ll be brief (yes, I know I&#039;m wordy)
I included the symptoms, because it is my understanding that many who have these deep wounds may be unconscious of them, it is common for the child to push damning evidence of a parents conduct (they are not supposed to hate their parent) way back into the furthest parts of their mind where it festers over the years and the only indication they might have are the symptoms.

 I hope that some one who is suffering in this way will notice the symptoms in their life, and ask the Lord about it so that the healing process can begin.

Nathan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rachel;</p>
<p>This time I&#8217;ll be brief (yes, I know I&#8217;m wordy)<br />
I included the symptoms, because it is my understanding that many who have these deep wounds may be unconscious of them, it is common for the child to push damning evidence of a parents conduct (they are not supposed to hate their parent) way back into the furthest parts of their mind where it festers over the years and the only indication they might have are the symptoms.</p>
<p> I hope that some one who is suffering in this way will notice the symptoms in their life, and ask the Lord about it so that the healing process can begin.</p>
<p>Nathan</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://stirringthedeep.com/2009/10/06/healing-the-wounds-left-by-an-earthly-father/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marianne, 

The healing is definitely a process. But God is faithful to complete what He has started. As Nathan said it is layer by layer and we have to be patient as God takes us through each one. Walking hand in hand with Him through it is the way to deep lasting healing and freedom. I am thankful for your faith in God and pray He will bring amazing peace in this area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marianne, </p>
<p>The healing is definitely a process. But God is faithful to complete what He has started. As Nathan said it is layer by layer and we have to be patient as God takes us through each one. Walking hand in hand with Him through it is the way to deep lasting healing and freedom. I am thankful for your faith in God and pray He will bring amazing peace in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nathan,

Thank you so much for sharing your journey. I KNOW it will be an encouragement to others. There is a lot of brokenness in this area and as we share our experiences with one another we help each other. 2 Corn 1:4 You made a good point about the healing layer by layer. There have been deep wounds in my life where He has done a similar thing - this is why He has to be the One we trust to heal us - only He truly knows each layer, when to unveil them, and has the power to bring truth and healing.  Also, I appreciate you taking time to share with us the symptoms - often we try to address the surface symptoms instead of seeking from God the true source of it. It is good to see how it is all connected. Thanks again for sharing - honesty and realness is so powerful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for sharing your journey. I KNOW it will be an encouragement to others. There is a lot of brokenness in this area and as we share our experiences with one another we help each other. 2 Corn 1:4 You made a good point about the healing layer by layer. There have been deep wounds in my life where He has done a similar thing &#8211; this is why He has to be the One we trust to heal us &#8211; only He truly knows each layer, when to unveil them, and has the power to bring truth and healing.  Also, I appreciate you taking time to share with us the symptoms &#8211; often we try to address the surface symptoms instead of seeking from God the true source of it. It is good to see how it is all connected. Thanks again for sharing &#8211; honesty and realness is so powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel;

You have many interesting observations about the influence of dads, and how that relates to the Lord. I particularly liked, “We are to seek God to complete and fill us, to heal and restore us. As for our earthly fathers we have to abandon the hold they have on us, or we will remain living out our lives in a reaction to theirs.”
Unfortunately I am one of the guys who had a bad dad, In fact I often tell people that I was raised by wolves, since neither of my parents was a healthy specimen. 
The bad news is that since I suffered physical and verbal abuse I have had many repercussions from it, the Lord has healed much of it, but He is healing layers like an onion, after each layer is healed He goes deeper and then starts on the new layer. Of course, like your friend with the big hole in her heart, in some ways I am most fortunate. The good news is that the Lord is working on it and He is healing me and reassuring me every step of the way.

These are some of the symptoms resulting from the abuse I experienced. Perhaps some of your readers can identify with some of them.

* I was paralyzed by fear in difficult situations 
i.e. to be unable to make a decision or deal with big things like job loss, or inability to pay a debt, in a constructive way.

* I was distant emotionally especially regarding myself.
i.e. I could watch a movie where an animal or a child, or an innocent character got hurt and I would be bawling like a baby, but when it came to my worst wounds and scars I couldn’t let myself go and cry (I couldn’t express my deepest hurts).

*I was abnormally, excruciatingly shy in social situations, to the point of hiding.

* I had extreme reactions, trembling, shaking voice, anger etc. when confronted by a hostile or unfriendly authority figure (policemen, bosses, pastors, priests, etc.)

* I was at times depressed, often with feelings of worthlessness. 

* I had totally ambivalent feelings about my dad. I loved him, but then again I hated him.

* I was in denial, clinging to an ideal fantasy of what my family life was like. The things I said about my family home life didn’t match the reality of it. My denial was so strong that I had to be confronted about it (by my wife, someone who knew the truth of the situation).

At one time or another I had all of these symptoms to the point that it was causing me problems, so I thought, ‘why not go to the best psychiatrist in the universe?’, Jesus. The key was that I had to humble myself (realize I couldn’t possibly deal with it myself) and be as brutally honest with Him and with myself as I could. 
I started off with “What in the world is wrong with me, Lord??”
and as I sat quietly and listened for Him, He began with a dream I remembered from my childhood (fifty years ago), then as I asked Him, He showed me what it meant. He took me back through the worst experiences, this time with Jesus present, so that I could understand them as an adult. Then I was able to let go of them and hand them over to Him for disposal. He has not given me more than I can handle, but I must say, it is very tough at times. Also it was impossible to forgive my dad when I didn’t even remember why I was so incredibly angry with him, His healing has made forgiveness possible.
The biggest perk of this is, as Rachel mentioned, the Lord becomes your Father, in a very real way, when He gets you to the point of release, you can cry on His shoulder. You can sit in His lap, like the child you were when you were wounded. And you learn, in the most wonderful way imaginable, that He is your refuge.

Please understand, I am not a mental health professional, I am only relating how He is healing me. Thank God, He is healing me.

Nathan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel;</p>
<p>You have many interesting observations about the influence of dads, and how that relates to the Lord. I particularly liked, “We are to seek God to complete and fill us, to heal and restore us. As for our earthly fathers we have to abandon the hold they have on us, or we will remain living out our lives in a reaction to theirs.”<br />
Unfortunately I am one of the guys who had a bad dad, In fact I often tell people that I was raised by wolves, since neither of my parents was a healthy specimen.<br />
The bad news is that since I suffered physical and verbal abuse I have had many repercussions from it, the Lord has healed much of it, but He is healing layers like an onion, after each layer is healed He goes deeper and then starts on the new layer. Of course, like your friend with the big hole in her heart, in some ways I am most fortunate. The good news is that the Lord is working on it and He is healing me and reassuring me every step of the way.</p>
<p>These are some of the symptoms resulting from the abuse I experienced. Perhaps some of your readers can identify with some of them.</p>
<p>* I was paralyzed by fear in difficult situations<br />
i.e. to be unable to make a decision or deal with big things like job loss, or inability to pay a debt, in a constructive way.</p>
<p>* I was distant emotionally especially regarding myself.<br />
i.e. I could watch a movie where an animal or a child, or an innocent character got hurt and I would be bawling like a baby, but when it came to my worst wounds and scars I couldn’t let myself go and cry (I couldn’t express my deepest hurts).</p>
<p>*I was abnormally, excruciatingly shy in social situations, to the point of hiding.</p>
<p>* I had extreme reactions, trembling, shaking voice, anger etc. when confronted by a hostile or unfriendly authority figure (policemen, bosses, pastors, priests, etc.)</p>
<p>* I was at times depressed, often with feelings of worthlessness. </p>
<p>* I had totally ambivalent feelings about my dad. I loved him, but then again I hated him.</p>
<p>* I was in denial, clinging to an ideal fantasy of what my family life was like. The things I said about my family home life didn’t match the reality of it. My denial was so strong that I had to be confronted about it (by my wife, someone who knew the truth of the situation).</p>
<p>At one time or another I had all of these symptoms to the point that it was causing me problems, so I thought, ‘why not go to the best psychiatrist in the universe?’, Jesus. The key was that I had to humble myself (realize I couldn’t possibly deal with it myself) and be as brutally honest with Him and with myself as I could.<br />
I started off with “What in the world is wrong with me, Lord??”<br />
and as I sat quietly and listened for Him, He began with a dream I remembered from my childhood (fifty years ago), then as I asked Him, He showed me what it meant. He took me back through the worst experiences, this time with Jesus present, so that I could understand them as an adult. Then I was able to let go of them and hand them over to Him for disposal. He has not given me more than I can handle, but I must say, it is very tough at times. Also it was impossible to forgive my dad when I didn’t even remember why I was so incredibly angry with him, His healing has made forgiveness possible.<br />
The biggest perk of this is, as Rachel mentioned, the Lord becomes your Father, in a very real way, when He gets you to the point of release, you can cry on His shoulder. You can sit in His lap, like the child you were when you were wounded. And you learn, in the most wonderful way imaginable, that He is your refuge.</p>
<p>Please understand, I am not a mental health professional, I am only relating how He is healing me. Thank God, He is healing me.</p>
<p>Nathan</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne Lordi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marianne Lordi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a difficult subject for me to talk about.  I have been wounded by my father who passed away last year.  I cry still when I think of how it impacted my life negatively not to have a father figure in my life.  It took a long, long time for me to trust God as my Father.  Even now, I struggle with trust issues because I did not have a childhood.  I loved my father and he lived with me the last four years of his life, but sad memories from my childhood still haunt me.  
I am thankful that God is with me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a difficult subject for me to talk about.  I have been wounded by my father who passed away last year.  I cry still when I think of how it impacted my life negatively not to have a father figure in my life.  It took a long, long time for me to trust God as my Father.  Even now, I struggle with trust issues because I did not have a childhood.  I loved my father and he lived with me the last four years of his life, but sad memories from my childhood still haunt me.<br />
I am thankful that God is with me.</p>
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